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To: paul_philp who wrote (80238)3/7/2003 6:11:36 PM
From: Jacob Snyder  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
<Canada has a unique relationship with the US>

What changes in that relationship do you see, when/if Quebec secedes? Every group of people, with a separate language, eventually wants a separate nation, and Quebec has been moving in that direction for decades. So I take it as a given, that at some point they will secede.

I can't see the English-speaking provinces becoming U.S. States, they have 130 years of history as a nation, and Canadians have their own identity.

Probably some type of EU solution, NAFTA evolving into a more integrated system. The Czechs and Slovaks divorced but continued to live in the same house, and that seems to have worked well. Maybe the French and English provinces of Canada will do the same solution.



To: paul_philp who wrote (80238)3/7/2003 6:22:20 PM
From: abuelita  Respond to of 281500
 
Canada is very proud of it's contributions in WW1 and WW2, Korea, Gulf War,

i'm not denying that.

... Canadians are especially proud of it's peace keeping role in the world.

yes - and so we should be.

Canada has a unique relationship with the US.

yes - one of a mouse lying next to an elephant.
although we do have a few cards to play i think
- energy. perhaps water unless NAFTA has screwed
that up.

We have a long history of contributing militarily when asked and I don't forsee that changing any time soon.

i agree - when the cause is just.

i don't agree when the purpose of war
is to further the agenda of the PNAC.
"by taking control of iraq, the bush administration
can solidify a long-running strategic design.
its the kissinger plan".

its not to die for.

the world is changing and not for the
better under this current administration.

its time we changed too.

i know its a pipe dream, but think about
this old world of ours if every country
kept their armies at home. <s> pleasant
thought i think.

JMO

rose



To: paul_philp who wrote (80238)3/7/2003 6:26:20 PM
From: Condor  Respond to of 281500
 
Canada has a unique relationship with the US......con'td

I agree that your post is essentially accurate but you did not address anywhere that at times we simply disagree with them as opposed to "mistrust" and "resent" which were your choice of words.

We are totally dependant on the US economically and militarily.

We sell the US 85% of our exports. Conversely they buy 85% of our exports. That is a mutually advantageous symbiotic relationship. If they don't buy, we would have to snuggle up to some other country/s for trade and that may not be desirous to the US.

We are militarily dependant on the US you say. Who, what and when are we being attacked? If we are, it will likely be that we are collateral damage as a result of US altercations and foreign policy. I can hear the screaming now that you are under threat by terrorism as much as the US is. That is false.

I understand what you are saying paul but we are continually made to feel inferior with regards to the items you mentioned and in fact I feel that as a result of responsible foreign policy and efficient business practices/pricing we experience healthy trade and have little need for heavy military. Heavy military does not seem to be the panacea for peace that its cracked up to be.

C