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To: marginmike who wrote (29570)	3/8/2003 1:15:11 AM
From: LLCF	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 74559

<40% of the U.S. population had German ancestors - now maybe 35%.> census.gov You can probably throw in other Germanic countries... Swiss, Hungarian, etc. DAK

To: marginmike who wrote (29570)	3/8/2003 9:46:54 PM
From: energyplay	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 74559

What's ridiculous about the 35% German ancestors in the U.S. ? With one German grandparent , it's easy to get to those numbers. Large numbers of Germans immigrated to the U.S. between the revolution and about 1880. Some were in the U.S. before the 1776. I believe total German speaking (note start of weasel reasoning here) immigration was about the same size as Irish immigration, and some of it happened sooner. Revision : My numbers are a little high. Some people will not report German ancestory on Census forms, however. Even if they stop speaking German, some of the thinking and values persist for a few more generations.

To: marginmike who wrote (29570)	3/9/2003 11:28:21 AM
From: jim black	Respond to of 74559

FWIW, if this has not been pointed out it is interesting: In setting up the nation under a constitutional government the framers debated whether German or English should be the official language of the new country. If memory serves I believe Ben Franklin expressed positive inclination to German but English won out despite the fact that we had kicked their butts. Of course we had to do it again in 1812 when President James Madison asked Congress for a Declaration of War against the Brits. jim Black