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To: Jamey who wrote (34477)	3/8/2003 10:26:37 AM
From: Scott Shaw	Respond to of 39621

OH, so there's a loop hole in the Bible that 99.9% of the present day Christians missed!...nope, not buying that - not now, not ever. Now look at Mark 13:32. Here the Lord Jesus says in speaking of his return, "But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father." Here the Lord says that during his earthly ministry not even He Himself knew the date of his return. But you contradict the Lord Jesus and say that he actually did know when he would return and that he actually predicted the "time frame" of his coming when he said “Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.” Listen, a "time frame" is still a time. It is still a date - so you have the Lord predicting the time of his return even though he had said that he did not know that time. Matthew 16:28 is talking about the transfiguration. And, I just have to state this again because it's common sense. God’s word says that we shall ALL see Him (Rev 1:7) and if we ALL saw Him in AD 70, including the non-believers, we would not have preterists telling us that He has already come back! It would have been such an event that we ALL would agree that it happened. I will be forgetting all about preterism real soon...but I want to thank you for this discussion. It has solidified my initial discernment about preterism and has given me plenty of ammo to use on the rare occassion that someone should ask me about it. God Bless, Scott

To: Jamey who wrote (34477)	3/8/2003 5:26:52 PM
From: alan w	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 39621

Hi James. Just a couple of things as I am not a preterist nor do I feel any need to study it. I don't think it's a critical issue one way or the other. Just for my info, what was to follow the "second coming"? I thought it was the millenial reign of Christ. Satan bound for 1000 years in the submerged chaos or pit in the KJV. Was he bound or do I have the timing wrong? To be followed by the new Jerusalem. When heaven and earth shall pass away. When God the Father will dwell on earth. And the sheep will lie down with the Lion? Also, I notice one of your references is Hebrews 9:26 Now He has appeared once for all at the end of the ages... We are still in "the ages". So the ages haven't ended. Since they haven't ended, Christ hasn't yet defeated all enemies.(See 1 Corinthians 15:22-28). When the ages end, we will be in the "eternal". Not until. There will be no time, or night and day, in eternity. Thanks, and have a good weekend. YBIC alan w