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To: Sun Tzu who wrote (68372)	3/8/2003 2:46:24 PM
From: JSwanson	Respond to of 70976

The US track record is far from the benign image you present Relative to the rest of the world the US has pretty decent track record. While the US has had many low moments and will have many more low moments in the future, we have contributed much, much more good to the world than evil. We do not, as people, just breach contracts because we don't like them anymore The US is not breaching any contract. The Gulf War cease fire was predicated on Iraq's compliance the the UN resolutions. Iraq is the country that has breached the contract "because they didn't like it anymore." As for France and Germany, I question their motives. Trade with Iraq that was supposed to be virtually eliminated as a result of resolution 687 has ballooned and France and Germany are benefiting. I also question Russia's motives and certainly think that if the US wanted, it could buy their vote. Nor do we go and shoot our personal enemies because they may buy a gun tomorrow May buy a gun tomorrow? He has many guns. He has used these guns on members of his family and neighbors and threatened the entire community. The world asked him to drop the weapons and instead of dropping them, he tries to acquire a cannon. If you wouldn't shoot him, I would! beat up our co-workers in the parking lot because they did not support our position in the meeting Who is beating up whom. The US is not beating up on anyone other than Iraq for failure disarm. I guess I don't understand why so many Americans think that France, Germany, China, Russia are so benevolent and that the US is so evil? Do these countries really has such awesome track records of doing good relative to the US? Are these countries without blemishes? I feel that most people just disagree with the current administration and are using this event to attack the administration? (FWIW, I am no big fan of Bush and his administration's policies towards civil liberties scare me). JS

To: Sun Tzu who wrote (68372)	3/9/2003 1:05:34 AM
From: Cary Salsberg	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 70976

RE: "...the dictators we support (and supported in the past) are better than the dictators that communist states supported." I doubt this, but, maybe, you can produce body counts! As part of my first job, 1968, I got a security clearance. I will never forget that the Abraham Lincoln Brigade was on the list of organizations that would disqualify one from a clearance. I guess that opposition to Hitler, Mussolini, and Franco in 1936 must have been a misguided, communist inspired action.