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To: Cary Salsberg who wrote (68378)	3/9/2003 9:06:14 AM
From: Sun Tzu	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 70976

> I don't trust the competence or credibility of the US political institutions or the US military First there was the news that Powel disclosed outdated plagiarized student paper as critical evidence of Iraq's WMD and danger. Then there was the cartoons of mobile labs, which Blix completely discounted in his subsequent report to UN. Now there is the news that documents given to UN as evidence of Iraq's shopping for uranium are counterfeit and without merit. If this was a real court, Iraq could sue for malicious prosecution! Not to mention that it was Britain and US all along who sold the chemical weapon factories to Saddam in the first place...let me see the logic in this..."we are going to invade Iraq because it has weapons that we sold him in the first place and because we can forge documents for whatever else we did not sell him". Am I the only one who finds this logic perverse?! If anything, this is grounds for court marshalling the governments of UK and US who sold Saddam the means in the first place. Why do I never hear a word about accountability of arms merchants?

To: Cary Salsberg who wrote (68378)	3/9/2003 2:33:31 PM
From: Sam Citron	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 70976

relative to the power we wielded, we have behaved more nobly that any other nation Does great power then excuse great indiscretion? Must be a lemma to the principle that "Power corrupts." That would be like arguing at the sentencing phase of a criminal conviction: "Your Honor, it is true that my client robbed the bank and killed the security guards. But please keep in mind that he is seven feet tall, weighs three hundred pounds, has fists like steel, and a huge arsenal. Surely these factors argue for a reduced sentence, if not a justification for his acts." I think we should be judged by the totality of our actions both good and evil. A recent debate taken at Oxford University found that 43.6% of those polled supported the proposition that the US is the worst threat to world peace. canoe.ca If this is the determination of the world's educated elite, the prestige of the US has certainly fallen to new lows. Arundhati Roy argues forcefully that George Bush is a greater threat to world peace than Saddam Hussain. thenation.com I appreciate the struggles of a second or third generation American to reexamine the sources of his patriotism during a difficult period of wrongheaded policy, but the rationalization that you have proposed has done nothing to soothe my wounded sense of pride in calling myself an American today. Sam