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To: gerard mangiardi who wrote (368751)	3/9/2003 4:26:53 PM
From: PROLIFE	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769670

know why abortion rates are dropping? SEX ED BS. Education!! Awareness!! Ultrasound!! Legislation!! Lies of Abortion industry exposed!! "So what made the difference? Pro-life legislation, pro-life education, and pro-life alternatives. Pro-life legislation passed during the decade certainly contributed to the decline. Eighteen states passed informed consent or "right to know" laws since 1989, most of them still in effect despite vigorous legal challenges. All told, 24 states have parental involvement laws in effect, requiring either that a minor's parents be notified or that a teen receive her parent's consent to obtain an abortion. Other states have put waiting periods in place. Many of these laws were passed in the early 1990s. Twenty-seven states passed partial-birth abortion bans in the 20th century's last decade. Congress voted three times to ban the procedure but vetoes and threats of vetoes by pro-abortion President Bill Clinton assured that no partial-birth abortion ban became law. Though the Supreme Court struck down these state bans in June 2000, the debate and passage of these laws was enormously effective in drawing attention to the humanity of the unborn and the inhumanity of those who defend this barbaric procedure. The educational programs of 3,000 right to life chapters throughout the nation have taught the truth about abortion and the humanity of the unborn child wherever an audience has gathered in venues as diverse as a school or a church or a fair booth. This has certainly been a major factor in turning countless women (and men) away from abortion. This continual grassroots educational effort has also helped keep abortion from gaining cultural acceptance, as its proponents had predicted in 1973. The phenomenal growth and increasing sophistication of pregnancy care centers across the U.S. in the late 1980s and early 1990s also had an impact. While there were just a handful in operation when Roe became the law of the land, current estimates are that there were some 3,000 such centers in operation by 2000. Pregnancy care centers offer women real alternatives to abortion, giving information, encouragement, and practical assistance that allow both woman and child a better life. One trend seen at centers during the 1990s was the increasing addition of medical services, such as ultrasound, to the pregnancy center's offerings. Ultrasounds, considered a technology of unknown safety and efficacy by the National Institutes of Health as late as 1984, became commonplace in the 1990s, so that nearly every woman (or man) in the country with a pregnant relative, friend, or office mate saw for themselves the humanity of the developing child. Detailed sonograms, showing the baby active and moving, along with fetal heartbeat stethoscopes, picking up the "whoosh-whoosh" of a heart that began beating as early as the third week of pregnancy, exposed truths the abortion industry had suppressed for years. While the decade began with the highest annual figure of abortions ever recorded in the U.S., the final tally for the 1990s shows that, in the end, the truth was finally beginning to win out." nrlc.org

To: gerard mangiardi who wrote (368751)	3/9/2003 7:48:56 PM
From: SecularBull	Respond to of 769670

I'm all for sex ed. And, I'm all for a ban on abortion. ~SB~

To: gerard mangiardi who wrote (368751)	3/9/2003 8:02:48 PM
From: Johannes Pilch	Read Replies (4) \| Respond to of 769670

It is not real Sex ED that helped cause the decline. It is your version of so-called "sex Ed," that has "helped" the decline. Your version is nothing more than a petty dispensation of contraception so that kids can reduce themselves to behavior much akin to that of dogs and pigs. Ultimately, it causes more problems than it solves. But it is not only your brand of sex ed that is responsible for declines in abortion. We, the Pro-Lifers, have influenced the education system too, causing an increasing number of public and private schools to include astinence-based sex ed programs in their sex education curricula. In fact our views are affecting everything, including your views. Even pro-choicers now cringe at the notion of abortion-- no longer making the outlandish claim that the procedure is on par with having a tonsillectomy. It is now commonplace to hear choicer-after-choicer saying such things as “I personally am against abortion [*notethey rarely state why they are against it], but a woman ought to have the right to choose it.” It is because of us, the pro-lifers, that so many choicers are feeling compelled to try, albeit in vain, to distance themselves from abortion. We have taught you and the rest of the nation about this most revolting encounter with death, grief and guilt. But we Champions of Life have not stopped there. On January 16, 1998, in its coverage of the Roe v. Wade anniversary, ABC News examined the decline of abortion rates and reported that 60 percent of doctors who do abortions are 65 or older. That percentage and average age of abortionists is now increasing even more rapidly, not because of you, but because of us, the pro-lifers. Real doctors know the truth about abortion and they know you know the truth too. Because of pro-lifers most doctors today are refusing to even learn the murderous procedure that is abortion. Pro-lifers have successfully stigmatized abortion and that means fewer abortuaries are coming online today. This means abortion is becoming ever more difficult to acquire. And that* helps explain the decline in abortions. Yet, while the number of abortuaries are on the decline, the number of Crisis Pregnancy Centers is being maintained. I myself personally fund several of them and think the Christian Church has done a bang up job over the last decade to support them all across America. There are literally dozens of towns in America where abortuaries are not present, but where Crisis Pregnancy Centers exist. These centers do a number of things, not the least of which is help pregnant women see the truth about their child with a calm, sober mind, instead of the panic-stricken mind that abortionists commonly exploit. The centers also help frightened women materially. The centers also help women who have had abortion overcome their grief and guilt. The upshot of the matter is that while we pro-lifers have successfully stigmatized abortion, we are not leaving guilty and grief-stricken victims of pro-choice culture to suffer in their grief. Very many women who were once devoted choicers are now even more avid Champions for Human Life. Vast numbers of them literally staff the Crisis Pregnancy Centers and counsel fearful young women through their ordeal. Visit a center and you will almost certainly find several former abortion victims helping other women avoid the pain of abortion. What we offer is just better than what you offer. We offer help and the knowledge that any woman can overcome her circumstance so that she can either enjoy or release her child to life. You offer death and the nagging and everlasting shame that a child has died by a mother's own hand on a certain day in time. I have no doubt that contraception has in part helped decrease abortion, but the pro-life view is so effectively stigmatizing abortion that even contracepting people cringe about the procedure. And they should cringe about it. It is a most immoral slaughter of defenseless and innocent human life. The long-term trend is firmly our friend and not yours.

To: gerard mangiardi who wrote (368751)	3/10/2003 10:08:51 AM
From: DMaA	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769670

Result of "SEX ED" ( and socialized medicine ) in the UK: Explosion of sex infections overwhelms health service By Jeremy Laurance Health Editor 10 March 2003 Soaring rates of sexually transmitted infections are overwhelming the NHS and threatening the health of a generation of young people, according to a committee of MPs. An inquiry into the NHS sexual health service by the Commons Health Select Committee has concluded that it is in crisis, with a shortage of resources, facilities and staff. Waiting lists are growing and delays in treatment are putting partners of infected people at increased risk, it found. . . . Pressure on the sexual health services has intensified in the last decade, fuelled by changing sexual behaviour. Cases of gonorrhoea have risen 86 per cent in five years, and those of chlamydia have doubled. Syphilis is making a return and the rate of HIV infection rose to its highest level last year. . . . news.independent.co.uk