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To: Al Collard who wrote (11636)3/9/2003 5:48:35 PM
From: The Osprey  Respond to of 11802
 
How true Al,
I have been saying the same thing now for some time.I guess that is why he is so anxious to go into Iraq.Whoever controls the oil controls the wealth and the power.Ever notice when oil seems to pull back some he ups the rhetoric and war mongering speeches and the oil prices react positively and the markets pull back.
If they talk about weapons of mass destruction,along with biological and chemical as well as laser technology and the dangers, how come no one is pointing their fingers at the US government.Do they believe that the world does not realize that they have them and then some.
In retrospect one has to wonder who the madman really is??No disrespect to my southern neighbours but enough is enough with your leader.Does he think everyone is naive??

The Osprey



To: Al Collard who wrote (11636)3/9/2003 6:59:40 PM
From: vds4  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 11802
 
i suspect that i may get slammed for this, but i did not write it... it was simply sent to me via email.

that being said, i can say this: i love rick mercer. the man kills me every time he speaks.

Subject: Fw: CDN Apology

Courtesy of Rick Mercer from This Hour Has 22 Minutes CBC Television:

On behalf of Canadians everywhere I'd like to offer an apology to the United States of America. We haven't been getting along very well recently and for that, I am truly sorry.

I'm sorry we called George Bush a moron. He is a moron but, it wasn't nice of us to point it out. If it's any consolation, the fact that he's a moron shouldn't reflect poorly on the people of America. After all it's not like you actually elected him.

I'm sorry about our softwood lumber. Just because we have more trees than you doesn't give us the right to sell you lumber that's cheaper and better than your own.

I'm sorry we beat you in Olympic hockey. In our defense I guess our excuse would be that our team was much, much, much, much better than yours.

I'm sorry we burnt down your white house during the war of 1812. I notice you've rebuilt it! It's Very Nice.

I'm sorry about your beer. I know we had nothing to do with your beer but, we Feel your Pain.

I'm sorry about our waffling on Iraq. I mean, when you're going up against a crazed dictator, you wanna have your friends by your side. I realize it took more than two years before you guys pitched in against Hitler, but that was different. Everyone knew he had weapons.

And finally on behalf of all Canadians, I'm sorry that we're constantly apologizing for things in a passive-aggressive way which is really a thinly veiled criticism. I sincerely hope that you're not upset over this. We've seen what you do to countries you get upset with.

Thank you.



To: Al Collard who wrote (11636)3/9/2003 7:36:42 PM
From: tyc:>  Read Replies (5) | Respond to of 11802
 
Hang tough, Al ! EXR-V for me next week please.



To: Al Collard who wrote (11636)3/9/2003 8:43:15 PM
From: originunknown  Respond to of 11802
 
Al:

Yes, the US economy has already suffered greatly from the uncertainty of war, and the billions about to be spent on a massive attack of IRAQ and the support of a puppet regime for the many years to come will cost more than the US can really afford at this time. What a waste!

"Countries from around the world are slowly pulling their money out of the North American markets" -- Actually our higher interest rates are attracting more international investors ---- the Canadian dollar has never done so well and reflects this influx of foreign investment. This may be temporary as when the giant begins to stumble so will we as one of their biggest dependent trading partner.

The Iraq situation is about more than just oil. It is about completing what his dad never finished, it is about controlling the political stability of the Middle East, it is about deflecting attention from other more important issues like a failing US economy, it is about misplaced military and political arrogance.

65% of the world population is against attacking Iraq as are a majority of Americans. Iraq is dangerous as is Libya, North Korea, Iran, and many many other countries that harbour and support terrorist groups. Why was Iraq singled out? Why are not other solutions even considered.........?

ou



To: Al Collard who wrote (11636)3/10/2003 10:49:58 AM
From: SAM-DAN  Respond to of 11802
 
OT- The first words out of Bush's mouth after his inaugoration[sic] were"we are in a recession" made to justify his call for a major tax cut. We believe the US economy and the Internet bubble was already burst but the Preident's attitude DOES have a major effect on people's perception and the American economic decline is much worse because of Bush's statements and actions.
We actually are supportive of the US stand re Iraq and terrorism. Canadians fought in 2 world wars [in both cases 2 YEARS before the US got involved ]and we fought in Korea as well to protect others and the values we cherish. We don't need a 9/11 to show our concern for the plight of others-eg our roll in peace keeping. But at some point the evil people[ who do exist in this world] must be stopped.

We saw what appeasement in the 30's allowed Hitler to wreck and nearly destroy our way of life. The UN is a collection of more dictators than democracies and thank goodness the USA has the moral initiative to take a stand now.

Sure there is exploitation by US oil interests [note that Haliburton has alraedy been granted the lead roll in looking after Iraq oil fields after they are "liberated'] But we feel Bush is more motivated by his correct belief that evil men must be stopped BEFORE they enact their evil than in resposnse.Enough for todays's sermon.



To: Al Collard who wrote (11636)3/11/2003 12:02:28 PM
From: Lino...  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 11802
 
Gee Al, there seems to be another theory....

Tuesday March 11, 2003 11:45 a.m. EST
So You Say It's About Oil?

The Bush administration, in preparation for the possible ouster of Saddam Hussein and any aftereffects that may entail, is soliciting bids for reconstruction and improvement projects in Iraq.

"Sure," you say, "they're looking for companies to rebuild the oil production capacity after the war."

Wrong.

The huge contracts, worth almost a billion dollars initially, are for roads, bridges, schools, hospitals and even mosques that might be damaged.

The U.S. is also soliciting emergency bids from some of the nation's biggest construction giants so that we can move fast and show the Iraqi people that we are serious about helping.

The U.S. Agency for International Development is also seeking bids to repair other things that might be damaged in war, or that may simply be dilapidated or out-dated, such as airports, the electrical grid, printing operations and the like.

Some of the large companies that will be bidding are Louis Berger Group, Bechtel Group, the Fluor Corporation, and yes, for all you conspiracy theorists out there, a subsidiary of Halliburton - Kellogg, Brown & Root - is developing plans to fight oil well fires in case Saddam lights up the Middle East by blowing up his wells.

Incidentally, the plans are being developed under an existing contract with the government because that is what KB&R does, not because Dick Cheney was the CEO, so let's calm down out there.

So, it seems that, contrary to the main argument of appeasement activists, the only thing Iraqi oil will be used for is to build Iraq itself.