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Politics : DON'T START THE WAR -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: Just_Observing who wrote (18062)3/9/2003 1:39:58 PM
From: Karen Lawrence  Respond to of 25898
 
thestar.com

Waiting for bombs to fall on Baghdad
Christians, Sunni, Shiite praying
Scholar: 'I'll be listening to Bach'

MITCH POTTER

BAGHDAD—When one lives in a city whose very skyline may look profoundly different in a matter of days, the question takes on new meaning: What do you do, exactly, when the bombs begin to fall?

Physically, Iraqis intend to take shelter as best they can if the final strand of diplomacy ends up pulling the trigger on war in the Persian Gulf.

But many will also seek solace for the soul.

Iraqi scholar Abdul Sattar Jawad found himself pondering this unlikely question yesterday. And he found himself offering an unlikely answer — he may well be reading Western literature when the U.S. bombardment rains down.

"Ernest Hemingway, William Faulkner, and definitely I will have the Norton Anthology of English Literature in my lap," said Jawad, English department chair at Baghdad University's College of Arts. "And I'll be listening to Strauss, Beethoven, Hayden and the piano concertos of Bach until the electricity is gone. Not to make a political point, these are simply the things I love.

"This is the world's first civilization, but I will be taking comfort in the culture of the new civilization," Jawad said.

Though dictatorial Iraq strictly limits access to foreign media, it is a poorly kept secret that a small number of Iraqis access satellite TV through the black market. They will witness the onslaught via split screen — one eye on CNN, the BBC or Al-Jazeera, the other on the real thing.

One Iraqi gentleman yesterday discreetly demonstrated his illegal satellite system. The receiver is hidden on his roof beneath a thin cotton scrim that lets the signal pass through without alerting low-flying helicopters, which are occasionally dispatched by the Iraqi regime to spot the dirty dishes.

"We watch the news every night for every little update. I don't know whether to laugh or to cry," he said. "But at least we know what is happening."

The man takes the signal box with him to work each day, denying access to a son he complains has developed a fondness for European erotica films.

Prayer, however, is certain to be the first and final resort for a significant majority of the nearly six million people of Baghdad, Sunni, Shiite and Christian alike. That is true also of many of the remaining anti-war protesters in the city, who intend to stay come what may.

For the past few days, Lisa Martens, 25, says she has had various Bible verses rolling through her head, hoping to find the right words to help centre herself during an attack. Born and raised in Brandon, Man., Martens is the only remaining Canadian delegate of Christian Peacemakers, the non-violence group that began sending teams to Iraq last fall.

Martens didn't hop a plane to Baghdad on impulse. As a staff member of Christian Peacemakers, she spent a year among the paramilitary forces of Columbia before accepting this assignment one month ago. She says the decision to stay is entirely spiritual.

"My religion has a history of doing good things, bad things, naive things and crazy things," said Martens, a graduate of theology and peace studies at Canadian Mennonite Bible College.

"But the basic tenet has always been the same: the belief that we can work things out without killing each other." Like most Iraqis, Martens will face war without a flak jacket, chemical protection equipment or gas mask. "It is difficult to explain. I love life. I want to live to be 99, to become a teacher, to have children. But I look into the faces of the young women and children here, and I feel they deserve the same possibility of realizing those dreams."

For Baghdad entrepreneur Khalil Souhale, 38, the question of what to do was obvious yesterday, as he scrambled to wind down his family's holdings in the city, including padlocking his posh Castello Restaurant in the trendy Arasat district. Yesterday, he sold his car. Today, Souhale leaves for Amman, Jordan, joining the rest of the family to witness the bombardment of his city on television.

"Many are preparing to leave, if we can afford it," he said. "Some of my friends have taken houses outside of the city. I still hold out a glimmer of hope, but we are not prepared to sit here through the attack. Enough is enough."
Additional articles by Mitch Potter



To: Just_Observing who wrote (18062)3/9/2003 1:48:24 PM
From: Karen Lawrence  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 25898
 
Excellent post by Steven Rogers:

To:FaultLine who started this subject
From: Steven Rogers Sunday, Mar 9, 2003 3:22 AM
View Replies (3) | Respond to of 80708

There’s something I’m seeing here, sporadically, that disturbs me. I’ve been seeing it for a while, and passing it by, but it’s reaching a point where I just can’t help saying something. I don’t want to point the finger at anyone, so I’ll address this to you and let those on the thread sort out where they stand.
I’m not naïve about these things, and I understand that war is sometimes necessary. I may not agree that this coming war, at this time, is necessary, but I understand that some could feel that way, and I’m willing to discuss the question with full respect to those with whom I disagree. What I find incomprehensible is the growing sense that people are looking at this not as a nasty job that perhaps we must reluctantly do, but as something to be regarded with pleasure, delight, and anticipation. It comes out in the words: “let’s roll”, “let’s do it”, “let’s take ‘em out”. There are people around who seem to be looking at this war like a child waiting for Christmas morning. It’s bad enough to see this attitude coming from bloggers on the lower edge of sentience. Seeing it here, coming from people that I’ve debated with as friends, is really and truly disquieting, and it makes me wonder what kind of people, really, we are.

So a question, for those who feel alluded to….

How many of you have ever been up to your elbows in human blood? Not the nice blood you get when you cut yourself around the edges, the stringy lumpy stuff you get when a human body comes up against a flying chunk of metal? How many have held a young man in their lap and felt the hiss and gurgle as his lungs filled up with blood? How many have tried to treat a multiple shrapnel case with a first aid kit? Smelled human bodies decomposing? Seen the dead stare in the eyes of children forced to see what no human should ever see?

In short, how many of you actually have any idea what happens in a war, when you get behind all that bland technotalk and cable TV coverage?

If you don't know, it doesn’t make you anything less. It just makes you lucky. It also behooves you, though, to admit that there are things a few of us know that you don’t. Don’t think you’ll understand it from anything I write, or from all the news footage you’ve ever seen, squared and cubed. You won’t. Accept that. Just read the next couple of paragraphs, and think for a moment.

War may at times be necessary. There are times when horrible things must be done to prevent more horrible things from happening. Whether or not this is one of those times is not something I will address here. There is only one point to this: war may be necessary at times, but it is never, EVER, a thing to approach with pleasure, with glee, with anything but horror. If I believed to the deepest core of my being that this war was absolutely and beyond question necessary, it would still make me sick to know what is about to happen. I wouldn’t back away from it, but I sure as hell wouldn’t be prancing and dancing about it, and when I see others behaving that way it flat out disgusts me.

We intend to go out and kill people; maybe a lot of people. Some of those people may be evil. Some may just be patriotic young men who feel it is their duty to fight against a foreign aggressor. Some may just be in the way. If we absolutely must do these things, then we must. There are sometimes reasons why such things must be done; there is never a reason to feel good about it.

The troops in the field may need to have that gung-ho spirit, though I get the impression that they have less of it than some folks on the home front do. When that spirit starts appearing here, though, I get the feeling that it might be hastening the arrival of the day when we start treating these decisions with a lightness they do not deserve. Sometimes I think that day is already here.

It’s not a happy thought.



To: Just_Observing who wrote (18062)3/9/2003 2:09:10 PM
From: Lizzie Tudor  Respond to of 25898
 
that is so apt, especially the header-

How to Swagger & Bully Your Way to Disaster: Bush's Foreign Adventurism