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Politics : DON'T START THE WAR -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Art Bechhoefer who wrote (18562)	3/10/2003 12:31:42 PM
From: Mao II	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 25898

Art: Serious focused attention on a just resolution of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict would strike the greatest blow against terrorism. This is obvious to all concerned. Only those with a stake in ongoing hostilities deny it. M2

To: Art Bechhoefer who wrote (18562)	3/11/2003 8:49:41 PM
From: Machaon	Respond to of 25898

<< Mr. Barry, I am Jewish, >> Yeh, sure you are. << ... and I do understand very well the Jewish interest Zionism. >> This leads me to wonder whether you are seriously confused about this, or you are just outright lying about it. << I fail to see how Zionism is consistent with the concept of one God who can be worshipped anywhere-- >> That is because a god has nothing to do with Zionism. For instance, I am an Atheist. I could care less about your god, or someone else's god, or even if you believe in the tooth fairy. I just believe in Jews controlling their own destiny, in their own state. I also believe in Italians controlling their own destiny, or Cambodians controlling their own destiny, etc. << Now you have a perfect right to believe in the God given right of a homeland for the Jews-- >> Thanks for nothing. << as long as this does not assume the Jews have a right to expropriate someone else's land, or to grab land without just compensation >> This is the statement of a jerk, not a Jew. When you say that, without the consideration of the five wars waged against the tiny Jewish nation, and when you say that, without the consideration of the millions of Jewish refugees, who were forced to flee their land, in Arab countries, in which Jews lost all their possessions and land to the Arabs, then you are dishonest and ignorant. << With well over a million Palestinian refugees sitting in camps after more than 50 years, don't give us this fiction about Jews being forced out of Arab lands, without acknowledging the other side of the story. >> Fiction??? Too bad that your mother didn't take the belt to you, more often, for lying.