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To: tejek who wrote (163791)	3/10/2003 11:55:55 PM
From: SilentZ	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1573820

>Its absolutely crazy, and its why the right make such good dictators. Oh pish. The Left's had some damn good ones in the past- Stalin, Khadafi, Pol Pot... Don't sell us short ;) -Z

To: tejek who wrote (163791)	3/11/2003 12:29:34 AM
From: Joe NYC	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1573820

Ted, We have a right to privacy under the Constitution including getting abortions. I found the text online: law.emory.edu Can you point me to the place in the constitution that see this? Joe

To: tejek who wrote (163791)	3/11/2003 3:56:47 AM
From: Tenchusatsu	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1573820

Ted, <We have a right to privacy under the Constitution including getting abortions.> I remember the story of a teenage mother who gave birth to a child, then killed it in the "privacy" of her own bathroom. Is that protected under the Constitution? Why or why not? Tenchusatsu

To: tejek who wrote (163791)	3/13/2003 5:38:57 PM
From: TimF	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1573820

You and D.Ray still don't get it. The Court did not change the law; instead it said certain laws passed by either Congress or state legislatures were unConstitutional. In other words, the Constitution never permitted the laws in the first place, and so they should not have been created. It is effectively changing the law, constitutional law, if it says the constitution says something that it does not. Yes, the Constitution more than hints at it. We have a right to privacy under the Constitution including getting abortions. The constitution doesn't mention privacy and doesn't even vaguely hint at abortion. Even if a "right to privacy" was explicitly stated in the constitution it would be judicial activism to say that means there is a right to an abortion. those abortions can only take place during the first trimester Not according to the current legal regime. You can legally get an abortion after the first trimester in any state of the union. Even banning third trimester abortions where part of the baby is delivered (partial birth abortions) has been controversial. The right talks about individual rights but its all a scam. You really want to legislate everything that we can and can not do including when we go to the bathroom. Total BS. Its time to get over the notion you can control everything. One can not get over a notion that one does not have. Your solution to crime which you can't control is to have a gun in every home in a vain attempt to control crime. The left is the one trying to assert control here. They are trying to control private ownership of guns. Tim

To: tejek who wrote (163791)	3/13/2003 6:46:37 PM
From: i-node	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1573820

The Court did not change the law; instead it said certain laws passed by either Congress or state legislatures were unConstitutional. In other words, the Constitution never permitted the laws in the first place, and so they should not have been created. I thought we resolved this. Courts create new law every day, and in every law course I've ever been in the courts are listed as a primary source of new law. In the examples I gave, Miranda absolutely did create a new law. Prior to Miranda, nobody had ever heard the phrase "you have the right to remain silent". After Miranda, if you are arrested and don't hear it, you walk. That is creating law, any way you look at it.