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To: hmaly who wrote (163828)3/11/2003 9:17:42 AM
From: SilentZ  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 1573902
 
>Without Germany figuring out how to handle the winters, how do you figure the outcome could have been any different. It would have taken longer, but the outcome was inevitable.

But what if the decisive battles had taken place during the summer?

>Saddam is more of a paper tiger now, only because of the sanctions, fly overs and inspections. However, the left refuses to see, that those controls have a cost, which easily over time amount to far more than a war would cost. I would also suggest that if France was paying for the costs, and absorbing the punishment, France would be just as enthusiastic as the US is for getting rid of the problem.

Well, we disagree as to the costs.

>Say it isn't so, that Ramsey Clark, the god of the peaceniks, is lying to us. That is the problem with your argument. ON one hand, the left is demanding no more sanctions because of the inhumanity of it. On the other hand, the left is demanding more inspections, and controls.

It's not my argument. Ramsey Clark isn't lying; he's just buying the propaganda.

>It is inspections and controls which caused the rise of OBL.

You think so, don't you? But not so. He just picked them as a call to arms. He would've had something else. Ayman al-Zawahiri, who's the real brains behind al-Qaida, had been a known Islamic militant entity since 1982- he formed the plot to assassinate Sadat. All of this had been fomenting since the fall of the Ottoman Empire and the rise of the Islamic Brotherhood as a reaction to the secularization of leaders like Kemal Ataturk in the '20s. Osama just happened to be the first dude with hundreds of millions of dollars who was actively willing to get into the situation.

>Why continue something which everyone on both sides hate. The answer is to drop the the controls. Now you have to decide if you and the world can live with Saddam with no controls. If you can't, then get rid of him, so that you can get rid of the controls.

It's just not that simple. As bad as Saddam is, a power vacuum in Iraq would be worse. Of course, you and I just do not agree on that.

-Z