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To: Lizzie Tudor who wrote (154116)3/11/2003 8:43:54 PM
From: Victor Lazlo  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 164684
 
<<the problem is that the US is the one remaining superpower and people are afraid of that power. >>

The savage sunni muslim maggots might be afraid, and they need to be. Or else they'll come here again and kill another 3400 innocent people.

That's just the way it is, Lizzie. They have no morals. They only know power or the lack of it. If they have it, they'll use it to take over schools and kill school chidren as they have been training to do.

Lizzie, i grew up with a guy who was on flight Pan Am 103 when it was blown out of the sky over Lockerbie Scotland. That was done by arabs. I knew a few of the families who each lost a member of their family on the flights out of Boston on Sept 11, 2001.

I'm not sure that someone can sit in Sil valley or Hawaii and truly know what it is like to go through this, and be so close to it. Maybe it's possible.

But let me tell you, when it's that close, when you live through it a few times, it's very real. It's not on tv. It's no peace aka, complaceny march. There is no doubt who could be next -you or your family.

And right now Lizzie, i'd rather have some murderers in Iraq pay the price than wait and see how long it takes for them to hit us yet again.

And it's only a matter of time. Unless we act.

<<Remember how the US felt when Russia went into Afganistan? This iraq situation is that same emotion, >>

for who? Riussia is kiling people all the time in chechynia; that's ok? France is killing people in the Ivory Coast!!!!!!!

c'mon, lizzie, there's a mean world out there !!



To: Lizzie Tudor who wrote (154116)3/11/2003 9:43:45 PM
From: Victor Lazlo  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 164684
 
Hey things can't be all bad. My CCBI hit a new high today. Maybe William keeps his money with them <gg> I'd say maybe you do but they're down south !



To: Lizzie Tudor who wrote (154116)3/12/2003 3:59:08 AM
From: stockman_scott  Respond to of 164684
 
Think we'll see any leaks from the Pentagon...?

Pentagon Papers Leaker Seeks Leaks on Iraq
by Mark Benjamin
United Press International
Published on Tuesday, March 11, 2003

WASHINGTON -- Daniel Ellsberg, who in 1971 leaked the Pentagon Papers, on Tuesday called on government officials to leak documents to Congress and the press showing the Bush administration is lying in building its case against Saddam Hussein.

Ellsberg, an ex-Marine and military analyst, said he held out hope that exposing alleged lies by the Bush administration could still avert an unjust war. He warned that whistleblowers may face ruin of their careers and marriages and be incarcerated.

"Don't wait until the bombs start falling," Ellsberg said at a Tuesday press conference in Washington. "If you know the public is being lied to and you have documents to prove it, go to Congress and go to the press."

Ellsberg did not leak the Pentagon Papers to the New York Times until 1971, although he says he had information in the mid-1960s that he now wishes he had leaked then.

"Do what I wish I had done before the bombs started falling" in Vietnam, Ellsberg said. "I think there is some chance that the truth could avert war."

The thousands of pages in the Pentagon Papers showed the government's secret decision-making process on Vietnam since the end of World War II. Their publication -- the government sued and lost to prevent it -- is widely credited with helping to turn public opinion against the war in Southeast Asia.

Ellsberg's press conference comes a little more than a week after the London Observer reported on what it said is a top-secret memo showing that the United States planned to spy on U.N. delegates to gain an advantage in the debate over Iraq.

The Observer reported the electronic memo dated Jan. 31, by high-ranking National Security Agency operative Fank Koza, says the agency is "mounting a surge" of intelligence activities mostly focused on U.N. Security Council members for "information that could give U.S. policy-makers an edge in obtaining results favorable to U.S. goals or to head off surprises."

NSA spokesman Patrick Weadon wouldn't comment on the authenticity of the e-mail memorandum. "We have no statement," he said.

U.N. ambassadors have mostly shrugged off the memorandum as reflecting the regular course of business at the United Nations.

Ellsberg said this story on spying at the United Nations is potentially more significant than the Pentagon Papers because it comes before a war has begun and it shows a desperate Bush administration. "This leak is potentially more significant than the release of the Pentagon Papers, since it is extraordinarily timely," Ellsberg said.

This past Sunday, the Observer reported that an employee at the top-secret British Government Communications Headquarters had been arrested following publication of the story. Ellsberg said reporters at the Observer told him the 28-year old woman arrested was not the source of the leak.

A second U.S. diplomat resigned yesterday in protest against the Bush administration's war stance. John H. Brown, who served in the diplomatic corps since 1981, said Bush's disregard for the views of other nations was giving birth to "an anti-American century." Last month, a senior U.S. diplomat based in Athens, political counselor John Brady Kiesling, resigned with similar complaints.

Last week, Mohamed ElBaradei, director general of the International Atomic Energy Agency, rejected a Bush administration claim that Iraq had tried to purchase high-strength aluminum tubes to use in centrifuges for uranium enrichment.

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