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To: Jim Willie CB who wrote (992)	3/11/2003 11:55:31 PM
From: Mannie	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1210

Puplava had another great write up tonight, be sure to check it out. I can see things slowing down in Seattle: -Real estate stats say that home sale closures in almost every category are off 50% over last year at this time. Much higher volume of homes on the market, sitting there for much longer -Walk in to virtually any restaurant and be seated immediately. -Had some auto service work done today. The owner said business is slowing way down, people are tending to only fix the necessities. -Traffic is down on the roads (I like this one) -Commercial real estate vacancies in the high 20%. The residential apartment market is experiences a high vacancy rate also. Many big projects dead in the water and sitting as a hole in the ground. There has to be a lot of opportunities opening up here at some point. These economic recalibration points are a great place to make money if one is prepared. scott

To: Jim Willie CB who wrote (992)	3/12/2003 12:11:22 AM
From: Mannie	Respond to of 1210

Friedland bets on “deflation boom” for next fortunes By: Tim Wood Posted: 2003/03/11 Tue 22:11 ZE2 \| © Mineweb 1997-2003 TORONTO – Canada’s most successful stock promoter and present chairman of Ivanhoe Mines, Robert Friedland, is investing heavily in China, Australia and South Africa on a hunch that those countries will benefit most from a “deflation boom”. A deflation boom, says Friedland, is akin to previous periods of unusual prosperity underwritten by tremendous productivity gains – real wealth growth despite punishing price declines. Such events were seen in Australia from 1860-90; the United States from 1870-1913 and Japan from 1950-73. China is Friedland’s next candidate for a deflation boom, already at the right staging point with sustained, strong GDP growth and a stable, but proportionately more massive population than in countries that previously experienced deflationary booms. “The combined population of the US and Britain is less than China’s under-eighteens, none of whom remember Chairman Mao,” said an enthused Friedland, who also noted that English is now a universal subject at Chinese schools. “The West’s production capacity is moving to China and there is nothing it can do about it. Germany is prolapsing; the Europeans haven’t got the foggiest idea. The average German worker wants a 4-day week, a 9-week holiday and still make 40 bucks an hour; but Volkswagen makes the bulk of its money in Shanghai.” Friedland is running his macro view on a double entry commodity ledger. On the “left hand side” are things China does not need like lead, magnesium, molybdenum, tin, zinc and steam coal. On the “right-hand side” are sea borne iron ore, platinum, alumina, copper, nickel, metallurgical coal, and gold. Guess which commodities Friedland is up to his eyeballs in? Ever the promoter. That said, Friedland is hardly alone in pushing China to the top of the miners’ totem pole. Chicago investment manager Donald Coxe says: “China is becoming a price setter on a huge range of finished goods. At the same time it is a price taker for a wide range of commodities.” There’s that double entry reference again. Friedland is looking forward to a “majestic, long-term rollover for the US dollar.” “The US dollar is toast because China is going to export awesome deflation. It is going to depress real wage rates in the West in a very serious way; will hurt unions and take down urban real estate in the United States and there’s nothing that can be done about it.” As an example, he cited the cost of structural steel which is ten times more expensive in the West – something has to give and he thinks it’s the minimum union wage. In contrast, Canada’s magnate thinks gold as a proxy for Chinese liquidity is a good investment along with Chinese urban real estate if you have a speculative bent. He also believes agriculture plays are important since China imports vast quantities of foodstuffs such as sugar, vegetable oils and coffee, whilst it is also a net consumer of natural resources like natural gas, lumber and pulp. “We are now in a period where we can divide the world into winners and losers. Commodities are the only rational haven,” asserts Friedland. “Australia, South Africa, Canada, Mongolia and China are the winners. The challenged countries are the labour movements and US real estate.” “Clearly Australia is a winner – the seaborne iron-ore trade is an incredible proxy on Chinese economic growth; they’re using about 350 pounds of steel per person per year, whereas South Korea is about 900 pounds per person. If you adjust for South Korea then the delta is about 600 million tonnes,” said Friedland who calls Rio Tinto, Anglo American and BHP Billiton big beneficiaries of the projected boom. Unsurprisingly, Friedland is especially fond of Mongolia – where his big copper-gold bet is located – which he patronizes as “China’s Canada.” He’s also particularly boosterish on South Africa because of its precious metals, especially the concentration of platinum group metals that will feature so prominently in the hydrogen economy. Before Friedland can reap his full reward from South Africa he must first address several problems with his bushveld property, including a somewhat rancorous dispute with Australian headquartered Pan Palladium. Even so, for most investors those are minor issues relative to Friedland’s successes. There is a legion content to take his lead; how else could one interpret the constant references to the man’s private jet.

To: Jim Willie CB who wrote (992)	3/12/2003 6:52:24 AM
From: Clappy	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1210

The right shoulder describes an Elliott Wave correction pattern called a "five wave flat top triangle." I wonder why Prechter and Hochberg are not calling it that. They seem to be the masters at the E-Wave stuff... Maybe Ackerman is seeing something they don't? Who knows. The one thing I like is the $HUI is near/on the Nov. 2000 trendline and seems like a good place to bounce. The SA miners seem to be wrung out during this past stock price squeeze. I wonder if they will lead this rally. The weekly charts seem to show some further selling to be possible. Doesn't look oversold yet. The opinion of a stooge. -Clapper