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To: LindyBill who wrote (81394)	3/11/2003 11:22:25 PM
From: Nadine Carroll	Read Replies (5) \| Respond to of 281500

I watched Fouad Ajami on "Charlie Rose" last night, and he is getting pissed. His reaction is that going to the UN allowed the anti-war pressure to build up, which is costing us allies. He is right, of course. But if Bush had not gone to the UN, the screaming would have been even louder. Yes, I saw the interview too. I don't think the screaming could possibly have been louder if Bush had not gone to the UN. Really loud screaming only happens when people think they can influence someone. And that fine old saying comes to mind "it's always easier to get forgiveness than permission..." My conclusion? Boy, was Dick Cheney right. In spades. I wonder what Colin Powell's private view of the matter is now?

To: LindyBill who wrote (81394)	3/11/2003 11:39:51 PM
From: kumar	Respond to of 281500

But if Bush had not gone to the UN, the screaming would have been even louder. I'm not sure. I was watching Kissinger on CNN earlier in the night, and he said US could have invoked Article 51 of UN Charter (we deem we are under threat from a hostile nation in a hostile region and working in self defence blah blah), and that could have been the end of it. Seems to me Kissinger gave the current administration kudos for attempting to go the extra mile, and commented 'its time to cut loose'. His prediction : unless Saddam is deposed/retires, war before end-March.