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To: Dayuhan who wrote (81417)	3/12/2003 2:23:37 AM
From: Steeny	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

This blame the enforcers argument is not credible. Is it not obvious that disarmament is not a question of time, but rather a question of attitude? It's quite clear that Iraq does not have the attitude to disarm. Look no further than access to scientists. Keeping the inspectors in Iraq, multiplying them by a factor of 10, will not change the equation. Regarding Bush administration attitudes toward Iraq pre 9-11, Bob Woodward's book makes it pretty clear that regime change was on the agenda. 9-11 simply forced them to deal with Afghanistan first. I would not agree with regime change in a pre 9-11 world, but the Perle arguments were already gathering steam in Condi & Wolfowitz heads. Agreed on Korea. The Bush team appears far more inept than Clinton. They lambast Clinton for getting suckered into 1994 and their current alternative is?? TOTAL INACTION.

To: Dayuhan who wrote (81417)	3/12/2003 3:24:37 AM
From: LindyBill	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

There's nothing Clinton could have done, short of declaring war, that would have prevented the north Koreans from getting to where they are. Clinton could have done what he now says he had plans for. A conventional bombing of the reprocessing plant to stop them from going ahead. I have read your other posts on NK, and see two solutions, once all the "yak yak" is over. 1) Conventional bomb the reprocessing plant now, to stop any more bombs, and risk a Korean War. 2) Resign ourselves to paying them off, with no real way to check what they are doing, no matter what they say. With the knowledge that they have lied to us before about Nukes. And risk a Nuke attack on the mainland. For this means, long term, they will have the ability to sell Nukes to Terrorists, and we will have a major risk of a Nuke going off in New York or DC sometime in the future. It also means, once we have established this pattern, that any other rogue state can do the same to us. So we will have to pay off Iran, or face the Israelis bombing the plants there. No really good way out, is there?