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To: re3 who wrote (94032)	3/12/2003 11:56:36 AM
From: Enigma	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 116753

Because the US is on the one hand saying that it wants to go through the UN - and is resorting to bribery and threats to get its way - but if it doesn't get its way it will pick up its marbles and attack Iraq on its own - and its Commander in Chief (who can only act with a teleprompter it seems or at scripted news conferences) will brand the UN as 'irrelevant'. This from a country which is consistently behind with its payments to the UN. In the short space of a year and a half this Government has lost the good will of its traditional allies. Those of us who don't live in the States have to remind ourselves of the many Americans who we know, or have met, and who we like. But it's reassuring that a large number of Americans hate ths gang too and are profoundly embarrased by Bush to the very bottom of their souls. And he has the affrontery to invoke God in what he plans to do - the destruction he is going to bring to Iraq. Pretext after pretext is being dragged out and if they don't wash, other ones are brought to the table. As someone wrote the other day 'there are two Superpowers now - the US and world opinion' Too true and at least we have that comfort.

To: re3 who wrote (94032)	3/12/2003 11:57:07 AM
From: long-gone	Respond to of 116753

The author isn't the first to say this: We Do Not Need the United Nations Now or in the Future! Paul Weyrich Monday, March 10, 2003 Unless things change significantly in the next week, President George W. Bush does not appear to have the votes in the United Nations Security Council to pass even a compromise resolution giving implicit support for war. I am surprised this is the case. President Bush and Secretary of State Colin Powell have made it clear that if the United States leads a "coalition of the willing," without U.N. approval, it will mean that the United Nations has ceased to be relevant. Let me make it clear. I have been against the United States going to the U.N. from the beginning. Whether or not Saddam Hussein is a threat to the vital interests of the United States is a debatable proposition. If he is, as President Bush and many in Congress maintain, then why are we putting our vital interests in the hands of such places as Cameroon and Bulgaria? (Bulgaria, a former Soviet satellite, is proving to be a staunch ally of the United States, so perhaps Mexico would have been a better example.) The President is a man of faith who says he prays for peace every day and, in any case, prays for the guidance of the Almighty in the decisions he has to make. The U.N. is, of necessity, a Godless institution. Even if God could be acknowledged, whose God would it be? The God of the Jews? Jesus Christ? Buddha? No, God has no place at the U.N. How do we ask for the Divine Blessing for the actions of the U.N. when at the U.N. there is no God? Moreover, the way the Security Council is constituted, this country is putting itself in the hands of many nations whose values are at odds with the Judeo-Christian tradition on which this nation was built. So, if there is not some last-minute change, the United Nations will have gone the way of the League of Nations. Eighteen resolutions and more than a dozen years and they could not force Saddam Hussein, dictator of a fourth-rate power, into submission. That is not all bad. I have a real problem with the U.N. treading on the sovereignty of a nation, because what can be done to Iraq may very well be done to this country one day. I am truly surprised that the establishment, which believes in the U.N., would let this happen. Once the U.S. goes it alone, albeit with some significant help from other nations, the U.N. will never be taken seriously again. Oh, sure, it might remain as some sort of debating forum where(cont) newsmax.com