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Politics : DON'T START THE WAR -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: jttmab who wrote (19946)3/12/2003 7:17:20 PM
From: Sultan  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 25898
 
Suppose, we do invade Iraq without UN approval and we don't find any WMD...wouldn't that be a laugh.

You are not serious.. Folks who get excited about duct taped drone will make sure there is something to be found.. What a mess..



To: jttmab who wrote (19946)3/12/2003 9:35:07 PM
From: PartyTime  Respond to of 25898
 
It could be that both sides--Iraq and the US--need a plant.

Saddam may have to borrow some WDM from another nation so he can turn 'em in. If no one will lend him any to turn in, the US might have to go to war and bring in its own.

This whole thing reminds me of when I was 16 years old and got arrested for being "knowingly present where marijuana was found." I was in a beach house with 27 other people, most of whom were asleep. It was three a.m. when it happened. A guy came in the house about an hour before the cops, took his coat off and put it on the back of a chair. Turned out a nickel bag of pot was in the inside pocket of his coat. So that, naturally, made all of us guilty as supposed justice was served out. Pleading not guilty, I got the automatic guilty verdict at the first level of court, as I watched all kinds of kids plead and pay the routine guilty verdict, at their parents urging. I appealed to the next level and was found not guilty. To this day I don't believe I, or the others, should have been arrested; and to this day, I'm convinced the guy who came in with the pot in his coat was a plant. The whole incident ruined what otherwise was a perfect beach house, our Endless Summer. So it goes.

As to whether or not Iraq is possessing WDM? It seems pretty clear now, except to those who won't admit it, that the nuclear front the Administration has pushed both on Congress and on the public is false. Nothing has been found or detected by the inspectors, the aluminum tubes are neither applicable or suitable the documentation between Iraqi agents and Niger turns out fabricated. But this sure was powerful enough to help Bush get a pro-war resolution through Congress, and whip up the public sentitiment sufficient to get a GOPside edge in Congress.

Regarding biologicals and chemicals? It's my opinion, based on what Saddam's son Kamel documented, information intelligence officials have hid from the public, that Saddam probably did bury most of the stuff in 1991. I further believe the restrictions in the succeeding years thwarted new efforts in this area. Again, according to Kamel, it was Saddam's intent to rebuild his WDM stock once the inspection process was behind him and sanctions lifted. This never happened.

However, I do believe he is holding back some chemical weapons which he'll use in defense of Baghdad against either Iranians, Kurds and, yes, Americans. His history shows he's effectively used such weapons in order to repel attacks against weakened defenses. He knows they work, so why, controversial as he is, would he want to get rid of these?

Please understand I draw this as a logical conclusion and not as an advocacy postion. I'm opposed to the existence of such weapons and I wish our own government would take stronger stances against their profileration by becoming a stronger leading example.

So what's he gonna show? Probably nothing more. What's the US gonna prove? It's my guess they'll prove that he used some in defense of Baghdad and eveyrone will suffer as a consequence. Is it possible, given the hanky-panky we've already witnessed, that the US government would plant WDM on Iraqi soil, call in a reporter (a friendly one, of course) and say, "See, here they are!" A prudent UN would now pass a resolution to encourage that any such weapons found immediately be placed in the custody of the UN weapons inspectors for examination and proof-telling.