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To: rkral who wrote (173574)	3/14/2003 3:27:05 PM
From: Robert O	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 186894

I would suggest you learn the likely meaning and origin of the term before you start defending, what you must perceive to be Tim May's delicate sensibilities, so vehemently. Pound Sand A variant is to use the word salt instead of sand. David McCullough's Truman reports that on 12 October 1948 Truman commented to advisor Clark Clifford regarding a Newsweek poll of fifty reporters that gave Truman no chance to win the election: "I know every one of these fifty fellows. There isn't one of them has enough sense to pound sand in a rat hole." This certainly is a possible origin. While it is unlikely that Truman coined the phrase himself, it seems likely that it is an aphorism that he knew and used. Filling rat holes with sand is menial work, and telling someone to pound sand down a hole would be like telling them to go fly a kite. Do you actually believe that Tim May is actually offended (or offendable for that matter)? This board has become too surreal for rational folk. RO Getting out of jury duty is easy. The trick is to say you're prejudiced against all races. --Homer Simpson