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To: SirRealist who wrote (82221)	3/14/2003 8:44:28 PM
From: JohnM	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

I'm going to take a pass at joining you in the prognostician game. I have a fairly public track record which is close to worse than zero. But I do agree that Sunday is more likely going to be about war plans than how to get the UNSC vote. Bush made a mistake, most likely a small one, when he said his administration would ask for a UNSC vote even if they thought they would lose. Of course, they can't. Because they don't wish to be in direct violation of a UN vote. So, I agree, most likely some time next week. Though I don't expect any one from the admin on TV about it until after it's begun.

To: SirRealist who wrote (82221)	3/15/2003 1:32:43 AM
From: KLP	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

Well, SR....THIS one can't happen...remember Saddam says they DON'T have any WMD.... And there are some that evidently believe him. I'm not one of them though. 6) Of course, Hussein will order the use of what he has: chemicals. But will his generals do it? The great unknown.

To: SirRealist who wrote (82221)	3/15/2003 1:51:47 AM
From: KLP	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

Imam Urges Iraqis to Harm U.S. Interests Mar 14, 7:32 AM EST By SAMEER N. YACOUB Associated Press Writer customwire.ap.org. BAGHDAD, Iraq (AP) -- A prominent Muslim cleric urged Iraqis around the world Friday to threaten U.S. interests and "set them ablaze" as Baghdad pressed its verbal assault against American efforts to win U.N. authorization for war. "The entire world, Muslims and non-Muslims, is cursing the aggressive intentions of the American administration against Iraq which, God willing, will be frustrated," Abdel-Razzaq al-Saadi, the imam of Umm al-Maarek, or Mother of All Battles mosque, said in his sermon during Friday prayers. An editorial published Friday in Al-Thawra, the newspaper of Saddam Hussein's ruling Baath Party, said Washington was adopting tactics akin to those of "road bandits and pirates" in pressing for U.N. approval for war and predicted they would fail. The editorial also called on nations opposed to military action against Iraq to strengthen their "rejection of aggression ... and to convince the Bush administration that the cost of any war on Iraq would be much more than what it is dreaming to gain from such aggression." "The international community has made up its mind and passed its judgment to condemn the American aggression ... leaving Washington with bitterness and isolation," it said. "The (U.S.) insistence shows to everyone that the United States is undermining international legitimacy." U.N. weapons inspectors, meanwhile, were back on the road Friday, supervising the destruction by Iraqi bulldozers of more banned Iraqi missiles at a site north of the capital Baghdad, according to the Information Ministry. The ministry did not say how many Al Samoud 2 missiles were being destroyed and the U.N. spokesman for the inspectors in Baghdad was not immediately available to comment. Also on Friday, the inspectors visited Al-Karama missile factory in Baghdad. The Bush administration, frustrated by a threatened French veto, has abandoned its demand for a quick U.N. vote on a resolution backing war against Iraq and raised the possibility that President Bush might travel overseas to consult with key allies Britain and Spain. The administration, which had wanted to introduce a new resolution authorizing force in the Security Council on Friday, will continue "working hard to see if we can take this to a vote," Secretary of State Colin Powell said. But he set a time frame that suggested the diplomatic effort would not extend beyond the weekend. Al-Saadi said in his Friday sermon that it was "the obligation for Iraqis and others now to threaten U.S. interests everywhere and set them ablaze." He also urged Americans and the British to rise up against Bush and Prime Minister Tony Blair. "They don't represent them and the two peoples cannot accept oppression and aggression," he said in the sermon broadcast live on state television. Iraq has in recent days been reveling in the diplomatic turmoil that has entangled U.S. war plans. It has rejected a British compromise out of hand and snubbed an Arab peace mission. But war - the likelihood of it, and preparations for it - continues to take center stage. On Friday, the United Nations pulled eight armored personnel carriers and their Bangladeshi crews out of the U.N.-monitored demilitarized zone on the Iraq-Kuwaiti border, part of an announced partial withdrawal of observers as tensions build. The withdrawal leaves crews in 22 vehicles still manning U.N.-authorized gates through the electrified fence and patrolling the fence line, erected after the 1991 Gulf War. Iraqi Foreign Minister Naji Sabri rebuffed a high-level Arab League peace mission that had been scheduled to travel to Baghdad this week. He said top Iraqi officials wouldn't have time to meet with the dignitaries, who included the foreign ministers of Egypt, Syria, Lebanon, Tunisia and Bahrain and the secretary-general of the Arab League, Amr Moussa. The announcement suggested the Iraqi leadership feared the delegates would urge Saddam to make concessions to the United Nations or even step down, although the delegation has not publicly endorsed calls for Saddam to resign. On the streets of Baghdad, officials of Saddam's Baath Party rounded up young volunteers to dig foxholes, build sandbagged fighting positions and erect bunkers covered in camouflaged netting in residential neighborhoods. Such preparations had been common around key government installations, but began only recently in residential neighborhoods. Neighbors organized outdoor bakeries that could operate through a war and dug community wells. They also prepared to fight. "The war might come in seconds or even split seconds. We are fully prepared for it, in a way that even the United States won't expect," said party official Faisal Mohammed Youssef, helping sandbag a street corner. "They will be killed in places they can't imagine."