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To: mishedlo who wrote (228292)	3/15/2003 11:30:42 AM
From: Tommaso	Respond to of 436258

There is all sorts of nuttiness going around. The situation sounds more like England on the eve of the First World War than anything else I can think of. But it also somewhat resembles the spirit in the United States at the outbreak of the Civil War. There was an edition of the Charleston News and Courier that reported the onset of shelling of Fort Sumter: the front page resembled a sports page. In England in 1914 many people were spoiling for a war to start. The current anti-French and superpatriotic feeling, and the readiness to speak of "treachery," compares to attitudes in England. As the war got under way, it became dangerous to play Beethoven's music in England because he had been German. The glibness with which various commentators discuss various "scenarios" for the war on Iraq sounds like sports writers speculating on team strategy. I recall a poem that Robert Penn Warren wrote as the Vietnam War was heating up. It was advice to himself, and it went: "Talk no shit, and remember / There is more than one kind of same."

To: mishedlo who wrote (228292)	3/15/2003 12:33:00 PM
From: Les H	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 436258

All sides are being bribed. US tried to 'bribe' Russia. Iraq through Russia tried to 'bribe' the US. The US was offered oil contracts well before the current situation as a bribe. And on and on. It's irrelevant. I also wouldn't call it backstabbing. There's mixed feelings about Turkey's involvement from all sides, whether they'll be partaking in a land grab if they're involved.

To: mishedlo who wrote (228292)	3/15/2003 12:47:47 PM
From: Haim R. Branisteanu	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 436258

misheldo - the moderns Turkish army was FOR supporting the US the Islamic Turkish Party is against supporting the US except for a very steep price. During the cold war with the USSR the Turks welcomed the US protection from neighboring countries supported by the communists like Syria & Iraq. There is very little known on those lands about the explosive nature of those artificial borders between Turkey, Syria, Iraq, Iran and former USSR states. That region is claimed by 3 to 5 additional nations who presently do not have a homeland. Kurds, Armenians, Assyrian, Zoartians to mention a few. The Israeli - Arab conflict will pale relative to the rivalries on the old silk road or between the Caucas / Caspian Sea , Anatolia, Babylon, Arab Peninsula and Mediterranean Sea .......