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To: Bilow who wrote (82451)	3/15/2003 6:51:45 PM
From: marcos	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

No, there was a specific term for the legal right to harvest each forest product, in english they all end in the suffix -age, from the french no doubt, their verb 'to prune' is 'tailler' [?} but it isn't taillage i don't think .... german is stuzen, not that either .... anyway this was a big deal to take away these rights because they had been bestowed on peasants over the centuries largely for military service, and been inherited from there, they covered wide areas in some cases and were doing great damage even before motor lorries enabled increased harvest, already by the 30s large areas of sand dunes along the Baltic were becoming desertified ... the rights were not completely taken away, and continued to cause problems in some places into the 1980s, last i heard Another example of abuse of power by those who held the power ... whoops, didn't plan on talking about war, but there we drift into it ... power does get abused, that is what is at the core of most all human problems, that struggle against those in power who are quite clearly abusing it, or about to abuse it .... some would point exclusively at Hussein on those words, and now by extension Chirac, for others the prime devil du jour would be Bush et Cie .... well i say don't any of em better give me no orders, a pox on all their houses, and they may all feel cordially invited to stay the phuque off my land, if they'd like any further discussion of the matter then go to an international parliament ... anyway the 1934 forestry laws of the nazis remain in effect, largely ... it was good law, being instituted to some degree in other places like Canada at roughly the same time, partly because forestry on this continent was begun by krauts and partly the hundred monkeys thing .... not only that, they made the trains run on time ... i had another point to make, drifting off now, but in vain attempt to google up support for it i found this completely unrelated bit - ' "We must prevent the rise of any pronounced degree of intimacy between French officers and Black officers. We may be courteous and amiable with the last but we cannot deal with them on the same plane as white American officers without deeply wounding the latter. We must not eat with them, must not shake hands with them, seek to talk to them or to meet with them outside the requirements of military service. We must not commend too highly these troops, especially in front of white Americans. Make a point of keeping the native cantonment from spoiling the Negro. White Americans become very incensed at any particular expression of intimacy between white women and black men." General John J. Pershing in a secret communiqué concerning Black American troops to the French military stationed with the American army. August 7th, 1918 ' nps.gov Millions of poilus fought well and bravely right beside canadians throughout the fifty-two months of that war, they died by the hundreds of thousands, and when they mutinied it was for good and valid reason, not any innate cowardice of their race ... sure they have been badly led, arguably they are badly led right now, but it is clear that others are badly led as well at the moment, and it is a bit rich to hear the jingoist ranting on the subject of the french from the perspective-challenged of a nation that arrived only in the last eight months of that struggle, and whose entire million-man army present never at any point encountered the number of german divisions that the one hundred thousands canucks alone defeated in the Last Hundred Days [which began the day after Pershing's little note there, 8 Aug, at Amiens] Were i in the position of Chirac, would i appease Dubya? .... hmmm ... well that's hypothetical, but the principle remains - it is inhuman to kneel to great power, what is most human is to resist great power ... Molly Ivins gets it - #reply-18704939 .... don't shake your fist at us, Mr Bush II, if you've got a case to make then make it in honourable and above-board fashion, you'll have a tough time getting all six billions of us to kneel