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To: Gary Walker who wrote (14677)3/15/2003 8:14:18 PM
From: lurqer  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 89467
 
Some have always been content to allow others to do the heavy lifting.

I assume you are referring to the "chicken hawks" in charge of this war.

lurqer



To: Gary Walker who wrote (14677)3/15/2003 8:15:57 PM
From: stockman_scott  Respond to of 89467
 
WHY ARE 1000 HIGHLY REGARDED VETERANS QUESTIONING THE WISDOM OF THIS WAR...???

veteransforcommonsense.org

March 10, 2003
The Honorable George W. Bush
President of the United States of America
1600 Pennsylvania Avenue NW
Washington, DC 20500

Dear Mr. President:

We, the undersigned veterans who have served our country in World War II, Korea, Vietnam, the 1991 Gulf War and other military conflicts, respectfully request an opportunity to meet with you about the threat of war between the United States and Iraq.



Mr. President, we are patriotic citizens and veterans who respect the office of the President and the ethics and values binding us together as Americans.



As such, we feel duty-bound to share with you our serious concerns regarding issues of national security, the appropriate use of our military strength, and the health and welfare of our active duty soldiers, sailors, airmen and marines. Those of us who are veterans of the 1991 Gulf War can offer particular insight into the ongoing troubles in the Middle East, and the likely consequences of another war in that volatile region.



A dozen years ago, we helped liberate Kuwait from Iraqi occupation, and in the course of combat operations came face to face with brutality and the consequences of modern warfare. We learned how unpredictable the nature of war can be. And we learned that war-related losses are not simply experienced on the battlefield.



Following the 1991 Gulf War, we collectively failed to prevent Saddam Hussein’s violent repression of a popular uprising and the unprecedented refugee flight that ensued. As a result, tens of thousands of innocent civilians died. In addition to those deaths, the war and immediate post-war conditions resulted in the excess deaths of 46,900 children under the age of five, according to the New England Journal of Medicine (September 24, 1992).



Over the long term, the 1991 Gulf War has had a lasting, detrimental impact on the health of countless people in the region, and on the health of American men and women who served there. Twelve years after the conflict, over 164,000 American Gulf War veterans are now considered disabled by the U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs. That number increases daily.



The possibility of large-scale war between the U.S. and Iraq looms before us once again. For this urgent reason we would like to meet with you to discuss steps the United States and its allies can take to protect U.S. soldiers, allied forces, and Iraqi civilians from known and suspected hazards that would result from military operations.



We understand the risks that come with war and that there are times when such risks are necessary. However, we strongly question the need for a war at this time. Despite Secretary of State Colin Powell’s report to the Security Council and the testimony of others in the administration, we are not convinced that coercive containment has failed, or that war has become necessary.



Our own intelligence agencies have consistently noted both the absence of an imminent threat from Iraq and reliable evidence of cooperation between Iraq and Al Qaeda. Again, we question whether this is the right time and the right war.



Further, we believe the risks involved in going to war, under the unclear and shifting circumstances that confront us today, are far greater than those faced in 1991. Instead of a desert war to liberate Kuwait, combat would likely involve protracted siege warfare, chaotic street-to-street fighting in Baghdad, and Iraqi civil conflict. If that occurs, we fear our own nation and Iraq would both suffer casualties not witnessed since Vietnam. We fear the resulting carnage and humanitarian consequences would further devastate Iraqi society and inflame an already volatile Middle East, and increase terrorism against U.S. citizens.



Our concerns about the potential human and material costs of a military conflict in Iraq are well substantiated. In the event of a war, the UN warns that 1.26 million children under the age of 5 in Iraq will be at risk of death. Within the initial weeks of conflict, the World Health Organization estimates 500,000 Iraqis would need immediate medical attention. Ten million Iraqis would need immediate humanitarian assistance and over 2 million Iraqis would be made homeless.



The scale of the crisis would be so large that the international community would be unable to prevent widespread suffering. For these reasons and more, it remains in our nation’s best interest to avoid another war. The risk of excessive civilian casualties like those predicted by the UN pose a grave risk to our national security, making the U.S. more of a target of retaliatory attacks by terrorists.



Mr. President, as our Commander-in-Chief, we recognize the immense responsibility you have to protect our homeland and keep our nation secure. As veterans who honorably served our nation in its wars, we believe that our perspectives, knowledge and expertise can aid you at this crucial time, as you continue to deliberate on whether or not to commit our nation to war.



We therefore request a meeting at your earliest possible convenience. We look forward to any opportunity to come together with you to discuss the matters we have raised.



Sincerely,





Vice Admiral Ralph Weymouth, USN, Retired

Vice Admiral Jack Shanahan, USN, Retired



Brigadier General Evelyn P. Foote, USA, Retired



Colonel David H. Hackworth, USA, Retired

Colonel Larry Williams, USMC, Retired

Colonel James E Unterseher, USA, Retired

Colonel James B. Burkholder, USA, Retired

Colonel Roger F. Strand, USAF, Retired

Colonel Virginia A. Metcalf, USA, Retired

Colonel Mary H. Yeakel, USA, Retired

Colonel Henrik O. Lunde, USA, Retired

Colonel Bruce S. Jarstfer, USA, Retired

Colonel Thomas Patrick Chisholm, USA, Retired

Colonel James Steven Chandler, USA

Colonel James J. Kent, USA, Retired

Colonel Grace E. Squires, USA, Retired

Colonel Carol Anne O’Donnell, USA, Retired



Captain Kris Kristofferson, USA, Retired

Captain Thomas C. Tindall Jr., USNR, Retired

Captain Herbert A. Blough, USN, Retired

Captain M. David Preston, USCG



Lieutenant Colonel Elizabeth K. McGillicuddy, USMC, Retired

Lieutenant Colonel Ron T. Coley, USMC, Retired

Lieutenant Colonel Walter M. Langford, USAF, Retired

Lieutenant Colonel Ben T. Granade, Jr., USAF, Retired

Lieutenant Colonel Frank L. Houde, USAF, Retired

Lieutenant Colonel Richard M. Renfro, USA, Retired

Lieutenant Colonel Gretchen T. Vanek, USA, Retired

Lieutenant Colonel Richard L. Schmitt, USAF, Retired

Lieutenant Colonel Vernon E. Whitney, USA, Retired

Lieutenant Colonel Graydon Causey, USAF, Retired

Lieutenant Colonel William R. Smith, USAF, Retired

Lieutenant Colonel David C. Dellinger, USCG, Retired

Lieutenant Colonel Anne N. Philiben, USA, Retired

Lieutenant Colonel James A. Adams, Jr., USAF, Retired

Lieutenant Colonel Rupert Eldridge Pate, USA, Retired

Lieutenant Colonel William J. Jacobs, USA, Retired

Commander Robert A. Wood, USNR, Retired

Commander John J. Kaso, USN, Retired

Commander Eugene M. Maresca, USNR, Retired

Commander William H. Busse, USNR, Retired

Commander David Bailey, USCG, Retired

Commander Philip Butler, Ph.D., USN, Retired

Commander Michael A. Kennedy, USN, Retired

Commander Theodore I. Bahn, USN, Retired

Commander Theodore Curtin, USN, Retired



Lieutenant Commander Daniel Fecko, USNR, Retired

Lieutenant Commander Jim W. Turnage, M.D., M.P.H., USN

Lieutenant Commander John Paul Brennan, USMC, Retired

Lieutenant Commander Thomas A. Egleston, USN

Lieutenant Commander Robert Swan Lawrence, USCG

Lieutenant Commander Dennis C. Hayzlett, USN

Lieutenant Commander Howard L. McFann, USN

Lieutenant Commander Lawrence George Thorne, USN

Lieutenant Commander David H. Gundy, USN

Major Kenneth E. Mayers, Ph.D., USMCR, Retired

Major Thomas J. Treadway, USA, Retired

Major William McEwan Cross, USA

Major Donald McNellis, USAF

Major Jon Bjornson, MD, USA, Retired

Major James W. Strader, USAF

Major Dean Wilson, USA, Retired

Major Willie Fuller, Jr., USAF, Retired

Major Ford A. Anderson, USAF, Retired

Chaplain Major Kenneth J. Nettles, Ph.D., USAF, Retired

Major Christopher M. Robinson, USA, Retired

Major Heidrun Mlodzik, USAF, Retired

Major William D. Cooke, USA

Major Mark W. Gieringer, USAF, Retired

Major Jon Bjornson, MD, USA

Major James E. Kinzer, USAF, Retired

Major Johan M. S. Muller, USAF, Retired



Captain William Clifford Ellerman, USA

Captain Paul A. Hellweg, USA

Captain Jerry Dowling, USA

Captain David P. Leaf, USA

Captain James C. Ryan, USA

Captain Charles P. Dillon, USA

Captain James Clayton Lockwood, USA, Retired

Captain Daryl Hobbs, USA

Captain Raymond E. Kemble, USA

Captain Herbert S Hathcock, USA, Retired

Captain Dr. Delphia M. Clarke, USA

Captain John R Phelan, USA

Captain Bert A. Bender, USA

Captain Simeon K. Heninger, Jr., USA

Captain Philip Zipser, USA, Retired

Captain Dorothy Pakula Whittaker, USA

Captain Thomas N. Stern, USA

Captain Dan W. Holbrook, USA

Captain David Berlin Eye, USA

Captain Robert Joel Master, USA

Captain Brenda Lasarzig, USA

Captain James J. Jablonski, USA

Captain Robert W. Ferrell, USA, Retired

Captain Bob Gaiek, USA

Captain John L. Long, USAF

Captain John J. Blase, USAF

Captain John Lovejoy, USAF

Captain Troy Carlyle, USAF

Captain Lawrence Hugh Boyd, USAF

Captain Theodore T Odell, USAF

Captain Gregg A. Matous, USAF

Captain Larry T Harnish, USAF

Captain Karl Schmitt, USAF

Captain Hugh F Cline, USAF, Retired

Captain Kathryn J. Hammond, USAF

Captain Neal F Bowyer, USAF

Captain Lucia Jameson, USAF

Captain Michael L. Glenn, USAF

Captain Landon Kimbrough, USAF, Retired

Captain David Louis Harris, USAF

Captain Karl W. Frederick, USAF

Captain Vincent Phelps Ward, USAF

Captain Carlo S. Ascari, USAF

Captain Robert Gregg Chilton, USAF

Captain George Georgieff, DDS, USAF

Captain Joe Stern, USAF

Captain Steven Dellaporta, USMC, Retired

Captain Wesley Scott Hannon, USMC

Captain Fred Johnson, USMC, Retired

Captain Thomas T. Carpenter, USMC



Lieutenant Thomas M. Liston USN

Lieutenant John Dobson West USN

Lieutenant Jerome P. Wallingford USN

Lieutenant David Felix USN

Lieutenant Michael Jay Herbert USN

Lieutenant John Orrin Purkey USN

Lieutenant Ricki J. Estes USN

Lieutenant Walter E. Ziegenhals USN

Lieutenant Frank Lloyd Kramer, Jr. USN

Lieutenant Harvey Bennett USN

Lieutenant William R. Jones USN

Lieutenant Gilbert Marek Zemansky USN

Lieutenant Jordan R. Carpenter USN

Lieutenant Gerald A Burnett USN

Lieutenant John Edward Houx USN

Lieutenant Michael Bruce Elder USN

Lieutenant Kenneth L. Lang USN

Lieutenant Francis C. Zanger (Chaplain Corps) USN

Lieutenant Michelle Birdseye, M.D. USN

Lieutenant Robert James Bournique USN

Lieutenant Glen N. Foss USN

Lieutenant Benjamin Senauer USN

Lieutenant Chris Gleason USMC

Lieutenant Douglas Timothy McGetchin USMC

Lieutenant John Stoddard Glascock Senior USCG

Lieutenant Albert C. Germann USAF

Lieutenant Timothy L. Hanley USAF

Lieutenant John T. Urban USAF

Lieutenant William Henry Reynolds USAF

Lieutenant J.E.O'Kelly McCluskey USAF

Lieutenant Alex Wormser USAF

Lieutenant William Spencer Hall USAF

Lieutenant Roderick D Raabe USAF

Lieutenant Roger Fitch USAF

Lieutenant Dr. Charles DeFreitas USAF

Lieutenant Barry Wolfer USAF

Lieutenant Robert Lowell Hickerson USAF

Lieutenant Danny Paul Dennis USAF

Lieutenant John Milton Wallace USA

Lieutenant Steven Richard Cartwright USA

Lieutenant Robert F. Hornbeck USA

Lieutenant Richard Kenny Sink USA

Lieutenant Donald Pinkel USA

Lieutenant James F Balderson USA

Lieutenant Steven Eli Schanes USA

Lieutenant Hugh Scanlen USA

Lieutenant Barry Dixon Copp USA

Lieutenant Ellie Kennedy USA

Lieutenant Todd Stuart Kneeland USA

Lieutenant Charles DePuy USA

Lieutenant Patrick Maurice Flannery USA

Lieutenant Dennis Spector USA

Lieutenant Alta J. Minthorn Stephens USA

Lieutenant Henry W. Plohr USA

Lieutenant Michael J. Sebetich USA

Lieutenant John DuBois USA

Lieutenant Harold Glickman USA

Lieutenant James L. Sheehan USA

Lieutenant David L. Harten USA

Lieutenant Randall Joel Hain USA

Lieutenant Gary Eschman USA

Lieutenant Roger Simon USA

Lieutenant Robert Lloyd Stebbins USA

Lieutenant Reysha Silverhair, formerly Hoyt Sherman Griffith USA

Lieutenant Douglas Parker Shaw USA

Lieutenant William M. Whitby USA

Lieutenant Robert W. Buttel USA

Lieutenant Thomas W. Shepard, Jr. USA

Lieutenant William J. Simmons, Sr. USA

Lieutenant Robert M. Land, USA

Lieutenant Edmund William Hoelker, USAF

Lieutenant Junior Grade Arthur Lewis Solomon, USCG

Lieutenant Junior Grade Joe Martin Cantrell, USN

Lieutenant Junior Grade Richard Ralph Groseclose, USN

Lieutenant Junior Grade Robert A. Collins, USCG

Lieutenant Junior Grade Bruce S. Ertle, USN

Lieutenant Junior Grade Charles H Nadler, USN

Lieutenant Junior Grade Richard Fredrick Hickey, USN

Lieutenant Junior Grade Gregory H. Carter, USN

Lieutenant Junior Grade Jeff Markell, USCG

Lieutenant Junior Grade John Ise Jr, USN

Lieutenant Junior Grade DeWitt Linn Sage, USN

Lieutenant Junior Grade Craig A. Bicknell, USN

Lieutenant Junior Grade Charlton M. Lewis, USN



Command Sergeant Major Robert Grover Smith, Jr., USA, Retired



Aerographer's mate third class Alice B. Gilmore, USN

Airman Albert W. Wilson, USAF

Airman Aram Attarian II, USAF

Airman Cheryl Davis, USA

Airman David Alan Dix, USAF

Airman French Tickner, USN

Airman Irvan F. Adams, USAF

Airman James F. McGowen, USN

Airman James J. Hogan, USAF

Airman John Paul Coakley, USAF

Airman John Stephen Pielaszczyk, USAF

Airman Joseph S. Sims, USAF

Airman Joseph Wistar Huey III, USAF

Airman Lewis Kirk, USAF

Airman Mark Torrey, USAF

Airman Mazie H. Todd (Rogers), USAF

Airman Merl Moncer, USAF

Airman Michael P.Corridon, USAF

Airman Michael R. Philiben, USAF

Airman Pedro Rivera, USAF

Airman Philip G. Brown, USAF

Airman Robert J. Hoffmeister, USAF

Airman Robert T.Hogan, USAF

Airman Roger Peirce, USAF

Airman Ronald Bostick, USAF

Airman Steven T Raynis, USAF

Airman Timothy Charles Frazer, USAF

Airman William H. Davis, USAF

Airman William J Leary, USAF

*MANY MORE VETERANS SIGNED THIS LETTER AND ARE LISTED AT:

veteransforcommonsense.org