Silicon Investor (SI) -- The First Internet Community

STOCKTALK

We've detected that you're using an ad content blocking browser plug-in or feature. Ads provide a critical source of revenue to the continued operation of Silicon Investor. We ask that you disable ad blocking while on Silicon Investor in the best interests of our community. If you are not using an ad blocker but are still receiving this message, make sure your browser's tracking protection is set to the 'standard' level.

Politics : Foreign Affairs Discussion Group -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Jacob Snyder who wrote (82478)	3/15/2003 9:13:52 PM
From: Sun Tzu	Respond to of 281500

Mass psychology has always been of interest to me. I had been wondering which book has had the greater influence on Bush's PR policy, the The Goebbels Diaries or 1984. So I did a search on propaganda as well as Goebbels' quotes. It was quite interesting to see the parallels. Like I said, I could have become a hawk and used them verbatim and no one would think twice. It's not a bad idea to do the search so as to see other views on the topic. For example, Lao Tzu's view on invincibility is remarkably different, "consider water, there strength in what it's not". ST

To: Jacob Snyder who wrote (82478)	3/15/2003 9:18:23 PM
From: marcos	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

' Without censorship, things can get terribly confused in the public mind.' - Gen William C. Westmoreland brainyquote.com T'was always thus ... try comparing US sixth grade textbooks with actual events ... for instance the taking of Tejas from México in 1836 - no mention whatsoever of the prime reason, the fact that under the mexicana constitucion slavery was absolutely prohibited, and only by 'liberating' the provincia could the 'texians' continue to work their captive negros

To: Jacob Snyder who wrote (82478)	3/15/2003 10:33:27 PM
From: Bilow	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 281500

Hi Jacob Snyder; Re: "There is reflexive irritation, whenever Hawks get told the historical parallels to other failed Hawk ventures. They don't want to acknowledge those parallels, it damages their self-image." I don't think there's irritation, so much as a complete inability to imagine anything else than that their ethnic group is not only different from any other, but is superior. Superior ethnic groups do not have to worry about failure, they know they're superior, that their motives are pure, and that they will win in the end. By the way, NightOwl provides this fascinating read by Plato along this subject: Alcibiades, by Plato san.beck.org Of course the lessons of ancient Greece do not apply to the current situation. The ancients, after all, didn't have Jesus to guide them / didn't have an emperor descended from the Gods / were not the master race / didn't worship Allah / didn't understand the historical dialectic / whatever. -- Carl