To: Karen Lawrence who wrote (14785 ) 3/17/2003 5:59:12 PM From: Sully- Respond to of 89467 Well Karen, I am proud of being exposed for proving folks lied & intentionally deceived for personal or political gain. I'd rather be vilified for doing that instead of being one of the crowd that cheers the liars on & aids in passing the lies around myself, again for personal or political gain. I see no reason to feel shamed for doing what I have done. I'd much rather make up my POV on facts & reality than blindly follow liars & cheats because they are on the same side of the trade, or they support the same political party I am sided with. As far as I'm concerned, when an individual or a group's basic premises are chock full of lies, deceit & slanderous allegations, I have to step back & ask myself what is going on here???? Why can't these folks debate the issues with factual info & reality based arguments?? Oh, & just in case that your argument is that the shorts were right because GMGC failed, you are still quite wrong. I did there precisely what I have done here...... expose irrefutable lies & intentional deceit with cold hard facts. Just because a typical YAHOO short makes a false statement or a series of them does not make them right because a couple of years later the company fails for reasons that had absolutely nothing to do with their lies. The lies & obvious deceit & slanderous remarks they made remain lies, deceit & slander today. I never alleged someone was a liar because they made predictions about some future event. I challenged their own words against current factual info that irrefutably exposed their lies. That is a fact. And I turned on GMGC long before they went under myself. When they began using floorless convertible financing & kept going back for more, I gave up on them & publicly & frequently expressed my disdain. Did that make any of the YAHOO shorts lies & intentional deceit suddenly become fact? NO WAY! You can believe what you wish. You can rewrite history if you wish. It won't change what actually happened one bit.