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To: IQBAL LATIF who wrote (43797)	3/17/2003 5:32:35 PM
From: IQBAL LATIF	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 50167

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To: IQBAL LATIF who wrote (43797)	3/18/2003 7:14:18 AM
From: Jeff Jordan	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 50167

Hi Ike, If I was a Shi'a muslim and lived in Iraq I would be scared to death of being gassed by saddamn before the American and Free Iraqi Forces could get there. Everyone is protected against chemical attack except the Iraqi PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!!! photo: defenselink.mil Hey, How about that Pakistan!<g> Warm Regards, Jeff in-god-we-trust.com

To: IQBAL LATIF who wrote (43797)	3/21/2003 7:21:16 PM
From: IQBAL LATIF	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 50167

Entire Division of Iraqi Army Surrenders 8 minutes ago <<1. He is overthrown in next 48 hours probability 30%. The GOC’s of the Iraqi Army will fall in place one by one; Baghdad will be last to fall as Saddam sees the intensity of the surrender. 2. He is overthrown once Basra-Nasseriah is taken over probability is as high 70% Message #43797 from IQBAL LATIF at Mar 17, 2003 3:38 PM >> By MATT KELLEY, Associated Press Writer WASHINGTON - An entire division of the Iraqi army, numbering 8,000 soldiers, surrendered to coalition forces in southern Iraq Friday, Pentagon officials said. Iraq's 51st Infantry Division surrendered as coalition forces advanced toward Basra, Iraq's second largest city. The mechanized division had about 200 tanks before the war, according to independent analysts and U.S. officials. The 51st was one of the better equipped and trained in Iraq's regular army forces and was the key division protecting Basra, a major transportation and oil shipment hub on the Shatt al-Arab waterway that leads to the Persian Gulf.

To: IQBAL LATIF who wrote (43797)	3/23/2003 8:33:54 PM
From: Ilaine	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 50167

Hi Iqbal - I would like to apologize on behalf of your fellow SI members for the rantings of Bilow. He doesn't speak for the rest of us. You are very much appreciated. Over on the Foreign Affairs Discussion Group, you are spoken of with great respect, and I believe this to be true also of Booms Busts and Recoveries, and I have also read people say complimentary things on other threads. Not only about you, but about your son.

To: IQBAL LATIF who wrote (43797)	4/9/2003 9:51:28 AM
From: IQBAL LATIF	Respond to of 50167

Pre-conflict forecasts.. The combo of 2 and 3 with little plus or minuses did it. I pat on the back of all of us is well deserved and very well earned.. Since this post was quoted on later and was a cause of little discomfort for most of us, it is nice to see to read it now as events unfold.. We amateurs handled this crisis quite well..... Message #43797 from IQBAL LATIF at Mar 17, 2003 3:38 PM Saddam is not suicidal; he kills but tries his best not to be cornered or become a sacrificial lamb, knowing form the past history he alike many others in ME are firm believers of politics of diminishing returns, sometime they become victim of global media and definitely this time he has, he thought French will not allow Americans to overrule UN, he underestimated like he did with James Baker in 1991 the resolve. I am sure that he and his cohorts were carried away by the global ‘Peaceniks’ demonstrations little did they realise that democracies don’t need these mandates sometime once leaders are invested with mandate every four years they exercise them with best results. Like OBL he will like to disappear and live in cave, all his money that he has collected the fast cars his sons like and palaces that he likes to maintain are not easy ticket items, the attachment to luxury is one greatest sign of weakness and this also indicates he would like to partake the luxuries much more than impending fall of Baghdad. The orgy of blood that these bunch of gangsters can unleash without any implication are suggestive that they are coward, they will use his soldiers as cannon fodder but once coalition of willing forces reach Al-Nasseriyah (this is the point where ‘hail Mary pass’ backed off last time in 1990) he will relinquish Baghdad, he may find comfort in East or may be in Syria. A living Saddam may become a greater hero of Islam, he will weigh this option well.. On scale of possible outcome I would think.. 1. He is overthrown in next 48 hours probability 30%. The GOC’s of the Iraqi Army will fall in place one by one; Baghdad will be last to fall as Saddam sees the intensity of the surrender. 2. He is overthrown once Basra-Nasseriah is taken over probability is as high 70% 3. The probability of coalition outside the gates of Baghdad and house-to-house conflict with Saddam and Qusay stranded in Baghdad is almost negligible; if that happens Saddam would be hero. However, he would not be doing what he has been so far if he had the courage to see the conditions of Iraqis, for him Iraqi nation are pawns on a chess board. That strength of character and seeing the last stand is not for him, he is not cut for that kind of role he is a homicidal but not sacrificial. Leaders who lead by front do not gas their own people.