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Politics : DON'T START THE WAR -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Steeny who wrote (22874)	3/18/2003 10:42:20 PM
From: Hawkmoon	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 25898

It was unilateralism from the start. A better group of salesmen & we would be in a far more advantageous position. Excuse me? What do you think two different administrations have vainly been trying to do since 1998??? France and Russia have had NO interest in returning inspectors to Iraq, so they done everything to repulse US attempts to push the issue in the security council. Thus, Bush's challenge to the UN.. Enforce your binding resolutions against Iraq or risk becoming irrelevant. Only then did they agree to placate Bush, in the face of his going it alone. He backed them into a corner that they could not get out of without showing themselves as truly being supporters of Saddam's regime (and potentially deliberately sabotaging attempts to disarm him). Also, I believe Bush has taken the only course available under such circumstances.. Saddam is a festering cancer in the middle east, creating turmoil and economic stagnation in the entire region. Furthermore, there is no possibility of achieving peace between the Israelis and Palestinians when so many Arab dictators have an interest in perpetuating it. So the only way to feasibly push for a Palestinian state, in if the region is if the repressive regimes in the region are purged or neutralized. That is what is commencing now with Iraq (because we have the UNSC resolution to provide justification)... Next will be Iran and Syria, and the destruction of Hezbullah and Hamas.. After that, we'll see sufficient pacification of the militants to potentially see these people learn to live together, rather than constantly seeking to annihilate one another. It something that has needed to be done for years.. Everyone understanding the region knows this. But there has never arisen a situation that would justify the actions necessary... And Saddam, so foolishly gave us the very rationale we needed.. Hawk

To: Steeny who wrote (22874)	3/18/2003 11:09:06 PM
From: Doug R	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 25898

Making France a target for invective is the easy thing to do...for blind parrots December 17, 2002 Germany Iraq's #1 Weapons Supplier? Deutsche Welle is reporting on a story from the "Berlin-based left-wing paper" Tageszeitung which apparently got it's hands on the Iraqi WMD declaration to the United Nations. According to the report Germany has been the number one weapons supplier to Iraq for a number of years -- up to and through 2001. The report, according to Tageszeitung, names eighty German entities who transferred knowledge, components, substances and "even entire technical facilities for the development of atomic, chemical and biological weapons of mass destruction to Iraq since 1975." The paper reports that the dossier contains several indications of cases, where German authorities right up to the Finance Ministry tolerated the illegal arms cooperation and also promoted to it to an extent.