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To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (83731)3/19/2003 1:44:08 PM
From: epsteinbd  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 281500
 
Debka had a very bad day today.



To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (83731)3/19/2003 2:18:22 PM
From: bela_ghoulashi  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
You know, I've been sitting and thinking about that for days. Hoping we wouldn't really bomb...until we actually met resistance.



To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (83731)3/19/2003 2:38:30 PM
From: FaultLine  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
My own bet is that there will be no war as such, just a few mopping up operations in places like Tikrit, where there are pockets of men trapped who are too deeply implicated in Saddam's regime to survive the transition.

I think you are right on the button.

--fl



To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (83731)3/24/2003 12:00:03 AM
From: Bilow  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 281500
 
Hi Nadine Carroll; Re: "My own bet is that there will be no war as such, just a few mopping up operations in places like Tikrit, where there are pockets of men trapped who are too deeply implicated in Saddam's regime to survive the transition. But most of these men are running away now, imo. I wouldn't be surprised if the Kurds do have Tariq Aziz."

Nope.

The basic problem with Bush is that he is running in what traders call "hope mode". In this mode, one hopes that everything will turn out okay, but strains to avoid seeing reality for what it is.

The Israelis have never conquered a major Arab city, other than Beirut. And that was while Beirut was held only by a disorganized rabble, more at war with itself than with Israel.

There's a reason for this, and it's the same as the reason that the Israelis still don't have peace in Palestine.

Like I've told you guys before, it is true that you can have peace at the barrel of a gun. But you have to pull the trigger. And keep pulling it over and over. Until you kill 5% or so of the population.

-- Carl