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Politics : DON'T START THE WAR -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Bill Jackson who wrote (23532)	3/21/2003 9:03:40 AM
From: Machaon	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 25898

<< With a population and economic base that was 100 times as large as Israel it would have been a better choice to integrate the palestinians into the other arab countries and not form enclaves or camps. >> Interesting point. There were as many, if not more, Jewish refugees, who were forced out of the Arab countries. Israel integrated ALL of the Jewish refugees, but the Arab nations integrated NONE of the Arab refugees. The Arabs created a nasty problem, and Israel was blamed. << Now the palestinians are a useless parasitic group. They have no education system because they destroy any education systems except one that teaches the koran, which is a waste of time. >> Yet, before the Intifada, the standard of living was getting much higher for the Palestinians. If the Palestinians had accepted Israel's offer, most Palestinians would be having a higher standard of living than Arabs in other countries. And....... the Palestinians would have their own state. Sad, isn't it? << There is no solution to the palestinian problem because the only solution the arabs would accept is the elimination of Israel. >> One has to hope that, some day, the Arab nations will accept Israel's right to exist.

To: Bill Jackson who wrote (23532)	3/21/2003 9:09:11 AM
From: GUSTAVE JAEGER	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 25898

Re: Robert, Looking at the Arab cause I see it as badly run since 1948. They have started 5 wars with warriors who cannot read the operating manuals for advanced weapons. Warriors who feel they will go directly to paradise if they die, so they take no care for their own life or the lives of their fellow warriors. This is not the strategy of people who want to win a war. French Algeria (1830-1962): In the early morning hours of All Saints' Day, November 1, 1954, FLN maquisards (guerrillas) launched attacks in various parts of Algeria against military installations, police posts, warehouses, communications facilities, and public utilities. From Cairo, the FLN broadcast a proclamation calling on Muslims in Algeria to join in a national struggle for the "restoration of the Algerian state, sovereign, democratic, and social, within the framework of the principles of Islam." The French minister of interior, socialist François Mitterrand, responded sharply that "the only possible negotiation is war." It was the reaction of Premier Pierre Mendès-France, who only a few months before had completed the liquidation of France's empire in Indochina, that set the tone of French policy for the next five years. On November 12, he declared in the National Assembly: "One does not compromise when it comes to defending the internal peace of the nation, the unity and integrity of the Republic. The Algerian departments are part of the French Republic. They have been French for a long time, and they are irrevocably French . . . . Between them and metropolitan France there can be no conceivable secession." [...] onwar.com French Algeria lasted 130 years.... How old is the garrison state of Israel?