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To: Ilaine who wrote (84636)	3/21/2003 2:08:29 PM
From: Nadine Carroll	Respond to of 281500

Lileks reviews NPR war coverage: 11:50 NPR is running . . . the BBC. It's interesting, listening to these guys - I'm unsure how it's possible to sneer the entire time you're speaking. I fear the announcer's face will stay that way. Perhaps you can recognize an old Beeb hand by the permanently curled lip. I've tuned in twice in half an hour; both times they were talking about the FAILURE to get Saddam, and what this FAILURE means for the war which might be hindered by this initial FAILURE. And then the reporter - a female one, with a sneerier sneer - says the question now is when the attack will come, and whether the President will give his generals permission to act with a free hand. Um . . . haven't we already settled that question? I know it conflicts with the Beeb's view of Bush as a vulture with a bloody globe clutched in one claw, the other holding the leashes of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, but I heard hours ago that theater decisions had been left to the folks who do this for a living. Unbelievable: NPR's top of the hour theme is somber, downbeat, with a few disconsolate snare drums - music to lose by! Is it too much to ask of these people to play something that doesn't sound like the music you'd use for the sinking of a f--king aircraft carrier? $#%(#$%$#5

To: Ilaine who wrote (84636)	3/21/2003 2:22:28 PM
From: Rascal	Respond to of 281500

Colonists did not have citizenship. We will offer citizenship and all the perks that go with it. Rascal@ itsagooddeal.com

To: Ilaine who wrote (84636)	3/21/2003 4:55:33 PM
From: Jacob Snyder	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

<If you watch/listen to Bush's speeches and Rumsfeld's speeches, we are saying we will get out of Iraq as soon as an Iraqi civilian government is in place, and won't stay one minute longer than that.> There is a contradiction here. On the one hand, the Administration says that Iraq is going to be turned into a prosperous democracy, a showcase for Americanization, and the launching pad to knock over the rest of the Middle East dominoes. This implies a long-term commitment, many years and many dollars. If they are serious about NationBuilding. On the other hand, we are going to "preserve Iraqi sovereignty", turn the country over to Iraqis quickly, and get our soldiers out as soon as possible. If they are un-serious about NationBuilding. It's one or the other; these are mutually contradictory futures. Statements like "we won't stay one minute longer than that" have nil content, tells us nothing. Does that mean 40 days or 40 years? If the policy statements of the AEI are a guide to the Administration's real plans, those plans are indistinguishable from colonialism. We'll dress it up pretty, make all the ritual denials, hide the mailed fist under a velvet glove, but it will fool no one. At least, nobody in the Arab world. It'll fool lots of Americans, who don't like that self-image.