Re: 4/2-3/03 - [TVCP/UCSY] CEO Michael Zwebner threatens "there may even be criminal charges too"
By: asking
02 Apr 2003, 10:57 AM EST
Msg. 10588 of 10655
(This msg. is a reply to 10587 by venture_boo.)
venture boo b, we are comparing the similarites of the water
scam to Hard Disc Cafe etc. International applications,
worldwide interest, big financing to be announced soon,
etc. etc. Then there is the interesting matter of TVCP
and all the PR's issued there. Why don't you go back
and research all the PR's issued by Zwebner and give this
board the percentage of success or things that actually
happened? Now that would be something we can all discuss.
ragingbull.lycos.com
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By: MICHAELJ123
02 Apr 2003, 11:10 AM EST
Msg. 10589 of 10655
(This msg. is a reply to 10588 by asking.)
asking....
your days as a free basher are rapidly coming to a close...
the real truth about myself, the past, the TVCP years and other accomplishments is now more than ever evident.
The lies, falsehoods, false innuendoes as well as the libel, slander and continuous output of false statements relating to theoretical and nonsensicle and imagined investigations will all come to a grinding halt.
The perpetrators of these years of having caused pain and suffering will pay, and pay dearly.
You may read this post and understand it any wha you wish, but if I were in your shoes, I would start slowly and very silently walking backwards, till you gracefully and permanently exit the door as otherwise, you may end up in the same predicament as others are experiencing.
Remember what I told you... one behaves very differently in front of a federal judge... seems one loses ones tongue..
and the Judges are listening to the victims today !
you have been told and warned enough times...
govern your posts and publishings accordingly.
Michael
ragingbull.lycos.com
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By: MICHAELJ123
02 Apr 2003, 11:13 AM EST
Msg. 10590 of 10655
(This msg. is a reply to 10587 by venture_boo.)
venture boo
there are some other reasons...
try federal courts and the judge's reactions to what is happening on line...
they dont like what they hear... and they are making it clear to the defendants.
Michael
ragingbull.lycos.com
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By: MICHAELJ123
02 Apr 2003, 11:16 AM EST
Msg. 10592 of 10655
(This msg. is a reply to 10589 by MICHAELJ123.)
asking
and let me remind you that
Even according to the United States Constitution,
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FREEDOM OF SPEECH DOES NOT INCLUDE THE RIGHT TO
LIBEL, SLANDER, ISSUE DEFAMATORY STATEMENTS, HARASS, STALK,
PRINT AND PUBLISH FALSE INNUENDOES ETC ETC...
Read the law !
Michael
ragingbull.lycos.com
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By: tvyes
02 Apr 2003, 11:24 AM EST
Msg. 10593 of 10655
(This msg. is a reply to 10592 by MICHAELJ123.)
and it's not against "THE LAW" to be a bad business man
who releases hyped up PR with the as# covering FORWARD
LOOKING STATEMENT".let us hear the facts about TVCP!!!!!
i do feel better though,the world has been waiting
for someone to deliver "water from air" and you are going to be that person!!
can't wait!!!!
NOT!!!!!!!
ragingbull.lycos.com
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By: MICHAELJ123
02 Apr 2003, 11:25 AM EST
Msg. 10594 of 10655
asking
and let me remind you that
Even according to the United States Constitution,
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FREEDOM OF SPEECH DOES NOT INCLUDE THE RIGHT TO
LIBEL, SLANDER, ISSUE DEFAMATORY STATEMENTS, HARASS, STALK,
PRINT AND PUBLISH FALSE INNUENDOES ETC ETC...
Read the law ! or HAVE THE JUDGE THROW THE BOOK AT YOU TOO !
AND.. GUESS WHAT...THERE MAY EVEN BE CRIMINAL CHARGES TOO!
Michael
ragingbull.lycos.com
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By: tvyes
02 Apr 2003, 11:29 AM EST
Msg. 10595 of 10655
(This msg. is a reply to 10594 by MICHAELJ123.)
i'm surprised you have the time to spend here
when you are setting up the plants and distribution
of your new product!!!!!
freedom of speech works both ways wether you like it or not!!!!!
ragingbull.lycos.com
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By: MICHAELJ123
02 Apr 2003, 11:34 AM EST
Msg. 10596 of 10655
(This msg. is a reply to 10593 by tvyes.)
tvyes...
You and your comments are not being overlooked.
if you have real and solid EVIDENCE of wrongdoing... then there are well established courses of actions and remedies available to you.... LEGAL COURSES...especially if YOU have been wronged. Posting false innuendoes and publishing and harassing, is NOT THE RIGHT WAY !
And If not, then you are nothing more than a troublemaker, and basher wannabee, or a join the "bad boys club" wannabbe member.
If the latter, keep on going, I have plenty of newly found patience and energy, and will take you and anyone else on IN COURT, and in front of the federal judge. Case history has been made and established, and the law is now swinging more on the side of the Electronic Medium Victim, than on the side of the supposed claimant of "Freedom of Speech"
You and the likes of you have and are abusing the system, and in a most misguided way, thinking that just because the Internet chat lines are there and available for you to publish you can do and print as you wish.,... well just keep doing it a little bit longer and then you will be publishing other types of documents, like responses to otions, and replies to court complaints...
and hey, you may even get to write large checks to clear judgments...
the choice is absolutely yours. And you will never be able to claim ignorance of the law, as NOW, YOU HAVE BEEN EDUCATED AND WARNED ON LINE ! The way you like it ?!?
Govern your mind and your posts accordingly.
Michael
ragingbull.lycos.com
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By: MICHAELJ123
02 Apr 2003, 11:41 AM EST
Msg. 10597 of 10655
(This msg. is a reply to 10595 by tvyes.)
tveyes...
what I do and dont do with my time is of NO concern of yours.
YOU do not pay my salary, nor do you employ me.
I am doing my job, which includes trying to control people like you.
And yes... Freedom of Speech... yes, I love it.. but I also respect it and cherish it. Unlike you and some other misguided Internet misfits who "use" it and "abuse" it for their own malicious agendas.
Go find someone to pick on that is smaller than you. Maybe then you might make headway as a bully.
With me, you will only lose.... THATS A PROMISE !
Michael
ragingbull.lycos.com
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By: tvyes
02 Apr 2003, 11:54 AM EST
Msg. 10598 of 10655
(This msg. is a reply to 10596 by MICHAELJ123.)
"evidence of wrongdoing"????
it's not against the law to be a "BAD" business man!!!
telling shareholders to put their shares away and wait for you to make them wealthy!!
you should be ashamed of yourself!!!!!!
how do you sleep at night??????
btw: keep your threats to yourself.
you don't like when anyone questions your history.
well too bad,i've been burned by your BS!!!!
ragingbull.lycos.com
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By: tvyes
02 Apr 2003, 11:56 AM EST
Msg. 10599 of 10655
(This msg. is a reply to 10597 by MICHAELJ123.)
i thought it was "EITHER WAY I WIN"!!!!!!!
go back to work(hah!) for your shareholders you so
cherish!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ragingbull.lycos.com
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By: MICHAELJ123
02 Apr 2003, 12:23 PM EST
Msg. 10600 of 10655
(This msg. is a reply to 10598 by tvyes.)
tveyes....
"evidence of wrongdoing"????
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it's not against the law to be a "BAD" business man!!!
THAT IS CORRECT, BUT THEN I DONT CONSIDER MYSELF A BAD BUSINESSMAN ANYWAY.
telling shareholders to put their shares away and wait for you to make them wealthy!!
I HAVE DONE IT, AND AM DOING IT, AND I WILL CONTINUE TO DO IT. I AM PROUD OF IT, AND PROUD OF THE MANY SHAREHOLDERS WHO LISTENED TO ME AND MADE MONEY WITH OR BECAUSE OF ME.
BUT, AS I HAVE ALWAYS REMINDED SHAREHOLDERS.... SHARE PRICES CAN GO UP AS WELL AS DOWN. IF YOU CANT AFFORD TO LOSE, THEN DONT INVEST.
you should be ashamed of yourself!!!!!! WHY... I HAVE DONE NOTHING WRONG. I AM ONLY ASHAMED TO HAVE TO DEAL WITH CREEPS LIKE YOU.
how do you sleep at night?????? VERY WELL LATELY, HOW DO YOU SLEEP.?
btw: keep your threats to yourself. THESE ARE NOT THREATS, THEY ARE STATEMENTS OF FACT AND IN SOME CASES PROMISES.
you don't like when anyone questions your history. IF ITS BUSINESS RELATED HISTORY, I HAVE NO PROBLEMS WITH IT, AND I RESPOND ACCORDINGLY AND FACTUALLY. IF ITS PERSONAL ISSUES AND HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE BUSINESS OR 'YOU'. THEN YOU ARE RIGHT.... I DONT LIKE IT ! AND I WILL FIGHT IT !
well too bad,i've been burned by your BS!!!! REALLY....
CARE TO SHARE...
WHICH SHARES, WHEN DID YOU BUY THEM, WHAT DID YOU PAY FOR THEM, WHEN DID YOU SELL THEM...COME ON, TELL US ALL... WHY ??? BECAUSE I DONT BELIEVE YOU ONE IOTA.....YOU'RE A PLAIN AND SIMPLE INVENTOR OR A TALE...
IF IM WRONG, AND YOU PROVE IT WITH REAL EVIDENCE, ILL APOLOGISE, IF NOT... THEN YOU ARE FULL OF CRAP, AS I SUSPECTED.
YOU DONT FOOL OR INTIMIDATE ME AT ALL....!
MICHAEL
ragingbull.lycos.com
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By: horswispr
02 Apr 2003, 12:53 PM EST
Msg. 10603 of 10655
(This msg. is a reply to 10589 by MICHAELJ123.)
Michael, if any of the bashers have lied about you or your past, by all means, get them in court. But on this board, I request that you walk quietly and carry a big stick. Don't stoop to the level of bashers. You most recent posts have ahad a quiet dignity and confidence about them that has made me at least consider buying more stock. That quiet dignity and confidence have led me to think that you may believe you can turn a profit, rather than worrying about people who flap their lips endlessly. I am reminded of a power hitter who strides to the plate among trash-talking opponents, and quietly hits a 470 foot homerun.
--Horse
ragingbull.lycos.com
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By: MICHAELJ123
02 Apr 2003, 01:16 PM EST
Msg. 10613 of 10655
(This msg. is a reply to 10603 by horswispr.)
Horse...
thanks for the post and your comments...
BUT, let me state for the record...
I am not worried about posters saying ANYTHING about me, because its all out there already, and aside the number of times I shower, or go to the WC, there is NO more discovery.
Now lets see what they have uncovered...In reality ??
NOTHING OF BUSINESS NEWS WORTHYNESS THAT IS DETRIMENTAL.
aside of the ongoing lies and more lies about government and law enforcement and police, fbi,dea,sec,nsa,cia,US treasury, DOJ, etc etc and multi task forces doing a gigantic investigation, (of what I dont know) ITS ALL CRAP.
TVCP is doing ok, and will do better this year. YAK is doing great ! SECT, became TCTE, and is doing well, and now UCSY is solid, secure, has a new business direction, and is set to do very well.
Hard Disc Cafe failed for BUSINESS REASONS, and I, MICHAEL ZWEBNER, was the single largest loser. I lost hundreds of thousands of MY dollars. But, do I whine and cry and moan, like the stupid fools on the net. NO, I move on in life, and go for the next, and hopefully more successful deal.
As I have said and posted numerous times... MY personal life is NONE of anyones business... and they (ALL) should respect that.
As regards the business of Air to Water... I have investigated this in great detail. I have met the people in this industry, I have seen working machines, I have tasted the water straight from the machine as it produced the water...I have met the patentholders, I have met several major "Buyers" from Governments both US and others overseas.
EVERYTHING I have found out and investigated indicates this concept and product to be an untapped market that is ripe for serious players to exploit. I truly believe in the business, and we are all going flat out to build the new infrastructure to make it happen.
It all takes time and money. Time we have, and we also have access to huge amounts of cash for the "right" business. A business that will convince the Money People that it is worthy of investing in. I believe we have doen this too.
We have now created the first draft of our new web site, as well as our first copy of the new AirWater Corp brochure.
These will be released and publicized very soon.
Sales of the products and the larger bespoke models will commence at the end of April, and results will be announced shortly thereafter.
Believe what you wish, BUT, I can assure you that this project will get our best attention and efforts...
Michael
ragingbull.lycos.com
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