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Politics : Stop the War! -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: Suma who wrote (1135)3/22/2003 10:24:35 AM
From: Karen Lawrence  Respond to of 21614
 
Suma: Some euphemisms for War from the last Gulf War:

Persian Gulf Glossary: Words and War
(terms used by the media, the military, and political leaders, compiled by George Cheney)

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Persian Gulf Glossary - Mad Dogs and Englishmen
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Persian Gulf Glossary -- (Top)
1. "Seeing Action": being involved in combat

2. "Neutralization": death and destruction on enemy side

3. "Fur Ball": pilot slang for the hectic tangle of air-to-air
dogfights

4. "Collateral Damage": civilian deaths and injuries, especially on
the enemy side

5. "Fireworks Display": early reports of the bombing of Baghdad

6. "Border Skirmishes": exchanges of gunfire that do not escalate

7. "Post-game Plan": what the U.S. will do following the war

8. "Blind-sided": attacked unexpectedly

9. "Video-game precision": reference to effectiveness of U.S.
military technology

10. "Like a midget volleyball team taking on the San Francisco
49ers": description of U.S. military superiority

11. "Engaging a Target": a successful U.S. bombing effort

12. "Surgical Strike": pin-point bombing of specific targets by the U.S.

13. "Personnel Pouches"/"Human Remains Pouches": body bags

14. "Patriot": a U.S. anti-missile missile

15. "Peel the Onion": strategy to strip away successive layers of
Iraqi air defenses before entering a ground war

16. "Sorties": number of bombing missions by individual aircraft

17. "Defensive Response": an attack said to be provoked by a prior
enemy action

18. "Terror Weapons": Iraqi missiles as described by the U.S.

19. "New World Order": Unspecified term used by George Bush to refer
to the global arrangement for which the U.S. is fighting

20. "Another Hitler": George Bush's characterization of Saddam Hussein

21. "Evil Imperialist": Saddam Hussein's characterization of George Bush

22. "Operation Desert Storm" (formerly "Shield"): code term for the War

23. "Turkey Shoot": U.S. military reference to the ease of hitting
Iraqi armored units on the road

24. "Scattered Like Ants": U.S. military reference to the effect of
bombing Iraqi Republican Guards

25. "Cleansing an Area": U.S. military reference to the elimination of
Iraqi soldiers from a Saudi Arabian town

26. "Carpet Bombing": another word for saturation bombing

27. "Kuwaiti Theatre": reference to Kuwait as a combat area

28. "Future Friends": reference by Saudi Arabian soldiers to their
Iraqi captive soldiers

29. "Clean Up": British military reference to additional bombing in
areas of Iraq and Kuwait that had already been heavily targeted

30. "Environmental Terrorism": reference to Iraqi act of spilling oil
into the Persian Gulf

31. "Friendly Fire": the shooting of one's own comrades in arms by mistake

32. "Soften up": Allies' strategy of heavy bombing of Iraq and Kuwait
in preparation for ground battle

33. "Advisor": term used widely for military officer

34. "Specified Strike Zone": area where soldiers may fire at anything

35. "Infiltrators": enemy troops moving into battle area

36. "Reinforcements": additional Allied troops moving into battle area

37. "Damage assessment": surveillance of enemy targets after bombing raids

38. "Precise, accurate and effective"; "Crude, wild and unpredictable":
U.S. military descriptions of U.S. and Iraqi missiles, respectively

39. "mopping up": final military operations against an enemy stronghold

40. "target-rich environment": area designated for especially heavy bombing

41. "to degrade...": diminishing the enemy militarily, psychologically,
and/or politically

42. "briefing": when the military says something in an official manner
to the press

43. "attrited": the breakdown of enemy resistance

44. "hunker down": what one does in a trench or a bunker

45. "trolling": searching for supply vehicles of the enemy

46. "withdrawal": leaving an occupied nation without taking weapons
and supplies with you

47. "retreat under fire": leaving an occupied nation with your weapons
and equipment in tow

48. "rout": common description of U.S. victory over Iraq

49. "liberated Kuwait": the nation after military removal of Iraqi forces

50. "reporting guidelines": Pentagon's reference to its censorship of
press coverage of the war

51. "hordes": U.S. and British reference to Iraqi troops

52. "Like the de-Nazification of Germany after World War II": reference
in the U.S. to what should be done with Iraq's political system
after the war

53. "lion hearts" vs. "paper tigers": references in the British press
to Allied and Iraqi troops, respectively

54. "Gallant boys" vs. "Overgrown schoolchildren": references in the
British press to Allied/Iraqi POWs, respectively

55. "Flanking strategy": U.S. military reference to its campaign of
bombing and then surrounding Iraqi troops

56. "Breaking Iraq's backbone": U.S. reference to its victory

57. "Bush's triumph": common U.S. media reference to the war

58. "Taking out": reference to the prospect of a U.S.-led coup in Iraq
or to the possible assassination of Hussein

59. "Quick, decisive and just": Bush's reference to the war



To: Suma who wrote (1135)3/22/2003 10:31:03 AM
From: Dr. Doktor  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 21614
 
<The whole world is wrong and you are right.>

That's right!

Now piss off.

DOC



To: Suma who wrote (1135)3/22/2003 10:52:35 AM
From: Doug R  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 21614
 
Then again I may be doing an injustice to my ninth graders.

I think their mentality is more representative of 6th grade lower socioeconomic stratus.



To: Suma who wrote (1135)3/22/2003 11:43:19 AM
From: Doug R  Respond to of 21614
 
A bit of instruction for the 6th graders on the thread.
Maybe they'll get to 7th grade if they try. That's the key though...trying. It appears they stopped trying at the 6th grade level so...there they sit.

Western efforts to propagate such ideas produce instead a reaction against "human rights imperialism" and a reaffirmation of indigenous values, as can be seen in the support for religious fundamentalism by the younger generation in non-Western cultures.
The very notion that there could be a "universal civilization" is a Western idea, directly at odds with the particularism of most Asian societies and their emphasis on what distinguishes one people from another. Indeed, the author of a review of 100 comparative studies of values in different societies concluded that "the values that are most important in the West are least
important worldwide."5 In the political realm, of course, these differences are most manifestin the efforts of the United States and other Western powers to induce other peoples to adopt Western ideas concerning democracy and human rights.
Modern democratic government originated in the West. When it has developed in non-Western societies it has usually been the product of Western colonialism or imposition.

The central axis of world politics in the future is likely to be, in Kishore Mahbubani's phrase, the conflict between "the West and the Rest" and the responses of non-Western civilizations to Western power and values.

Those responses generally take one or a combination of three forms.
At one extreme, non-Western states can, like Burma and North Korea, attempt to pursue a course of isolation, to insulate their societies from penetration or "corruption" by the West, and, in effect, to opt out of participation in the Western-dominated global community. The costs of this course, however, are high, and few states have pursued it exclusively. A second alternative, the equivalent of "band-wagoning" in
international relations theory, is to attempt to join the West and accept its values and institutions. The third alternative is to attempt to "balance" the West by developing economic and military power and cooperating with other non-Western societies against the West, while preserving indigenous valucs and institutions; in short, to modernize but not to Westernize.

The conflict between the West and the Confucian-Islamic states focuses largely, although nor exclusively, on nuclear, chemical and biological weapons, ballistic missiles and other sophisticated means for delivering them, and the guidance, intelligence and other electronic capabilities for achieving that goal. The West promotes nonproliferation as a universal norm and nonproliferation treaties and inspections as means of realizing that norm. It also threatens a variety of sanctions against those who promote the spread of sophisticated weapons and proposes some benefits for those who do not. The attention of the West focuses, naturally, on nations that are actually or potentially hostile to the West.

The non-Western nations, on the other hand, assert their right to acquire and to deploy whatever weapons they think necessary for their security. They also have absorbed, to the full, the truth of the response of the Indian defense minister when asked what lesson he learned from the Gulf War: "Don't fight the United States unless you have nuclear weapons." Nuclear weapons, chemical weapons and missiles are viewed, probably erroneously, as the potential equalizer of superior Western conventional power.
China, of course, already has nuclear weapons; Pakistan and India have the capability to deploy them. North Korea, lran, Iraq, Libya and Algeria appear to be attempting to acquire them. A top Iranian official has declared that all Muslim states should acquire nuclear weapons, and in 1988 the president of Iran reportedly issued a directive calling for development of "offensive and defensive chemical, biological and radiological weapons."

Centrally important to the development of counter-West military capabilities is the sustained expansion of China'smilitary power and its means to create military power. Buoyed by spectacular economic development, China is rapidly increasing its military spending and vigorously moving forward with the modernization of its armed forces. It is purchasing weapons from the former Soviet states; it is developing long-range missiles; in 1992 it tested a one-megaton nuclear device. It is developing power-projection capabilities, acquiring aerial refueling technology, and trying to purchase an aircraft carrier. Its military buildup and assertion of sovereignty over the South China Sea are provoking a multilateral regional arms race in East Asia. China is also a major exporter of arms and weapons technology. It has exported materials to Libya and
Iraq that could be used to manufacture nuclear weapons and nerve gas. It has helped Algeria build a reactor suitable for nuclear weapons research and production. China has sold to Iran nuclear technology that American officials believe could only be used to create weapons and apparently has shipped components of 3oo-mile-range missiles to Pakistan. North Korea has had a nuclear weapons program under way for some while and has sold advanced missiles and missile technology to Syria and Iran. The flow of weapons and weapons technology is generally from East Asia to the Middle East. There is, however, some movement in the reverse direction; China has received Stinger missiles from Pakistan.

A Confucian-Islamic military connection has thus come into being, designed to promote acquisition by its members of the weapons and weapons technologies needed to counter the military power of the West. It may or may not last. At present, however, it is, as Dave McCurdy has said, "a renegades' mutual support pact, run by the proliferators and their backers." A ncw form of arms competition is thus occurring between Islamic-Confucian states and the West. In an old-fashioned arms race, each side developed its own arms to balance or to achieve superiority against the other side. In this new form of arms competition, one side is developing its arms and the other side is attempting not to balance but to limit and prevent that arms build-up while at the same time reducing its own military capabilities.

This article does not argue that civilization identities will replace all other identities,that nation states will disappear, that each civilization will become a single coherent political entity, that groups within a civilization will not conflict with and even fight each other. This paper does set forth the hypotheses that differences between civilizations are real and important; civilization-consciousness is increasing; conflict between civilizations will supplant ideological and other forms of conflict as the dominant global form of conflict; international relations, historically a game played out within Western civilization, will increasingly be de-Westernized and become a game in which non-Western civilizations are actors and not simply objects; successful political, security and economic international institutions are more likely to develop within civilizations than across civilizations; conflicts between groups in different civilizations will be more frequent, more sustained and more violent than conflicts between groups in the same civilization; violent conflicts between groups in different civilizations are the most likely and most dangerous source of escalation that could lead to global wars; the paramount axis of world politics will be the relations between "the West and the Rest"; the elites in some torn non-Western countries will try to make their countries part of the West, but in most cases face major obstaclesto accomplishing this; a central focus of conflict for the immediate future will be between the West and several Islamic-Confucian states.

This is not to advocate the desirability of conflicts
between civilizations. It is to set forth descriptive hypotheses as to what the future may be like. If these are plausible hypotheses, however, it is necessary to consider their implications for Western policy. These implications should be divided between short-term advantage and long-term accommodation. In the short term it is clearly in the interest of the West to promote greater cooperation and unity within its own civilization, particularly between its European and North American components; to incorporate into the West societies in Eastern Europe and Latin America whose cultures are close to those of the West; to promote and maintain cooperative relations with Russia and Japan; to prevent escalation of local inter-civilization conflicts into major inter-civilization wars;
to limit the expansion of the military strength of Confucian and Islamic states; to moderate the reduction of Western military capabilities and maintain military superiority in East and Southwest Asia; to exploit differences and conflicts among Confucian and Islamic states; to support in other civilizations groups sympathetic to Western values and interests; to strengthen international institutions that reflect and legitimate Western interests and values and to promote the
involvement of non-Western states in those institutions.

In the longer term other measures would be called for.
Western civilization is both Western and modern. Non-Western
civilizations have attempted to become modern without becoming Western. To date only Japan has fully succeeded in this quest. Non-Western civilizations will continue to attempt to acquire the wealth, technology, skills, machines and weapons that are part of being modern. They will also attempt to reconcile this modernity with their traditional culture and values. Their economic and
military strength relative to the West will increase. Hence the West will increasingly have to accommodate these non-Western modern civilisations whose power approaches that of the West but whose values and interests differ significantly from those of the West. This will require the West to maintain the economic and military power necessary to protect its interests in relation to
these civilizations. It will also, however, require the West to develop a more profound understanding of the basic religious and philosophical assumptions underlying other civilizations and the ways in which people in those civilizations see their interests. It will require an effort to identify elements of commonality between Western and other civilizations. For the relevant future, there will be no urnversal civilization, but instead a world of different civilizations, each of which will have to learn to coexist with the others.
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Several of the problems with the current approach taken by the shrubbies can be seen in the context of the above.
One of which is the attempt to take the West's agenda into a violent phase at this point without a unified structure including Europe by ditching the UN and NATO is a strategic error in that the division supports opposing strategy. The "divide" component of "divide and conquer" is supposed to be achived by opposing efforts...not by the efforts of the protagonist inflicted on themselves.



To: Suma who wrote (1135)3/22/2003 5:26:11 PM
From: jlallen  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 21614
 
Then again....you may be hearing from people who have really put it on the line for the US, have traveled widely and understand that the US is the greatest nation and best place to live on this planet with the best system of government, not perfect, but better than any other devised by men. That being said, those types of individuals would tend not to suffer appeasing fools like Just_Flatulating and his ilk very well....

JLA