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To: FaultLine who wrote (84995)	3/22/2003 5:35:15 PM
From: Sun Tzu	Respond to of 281500

The difference is the degree to which this is done in modern times. It is unprecedented. Our lives is just too unnatural and artificial.

To: FaultLine who wrote (84995)	3/22/2003 5:45:35 PM
From: Ish	Respond to of 281500

<<Yes but it seems like we could take a slice at any time in history and be able to say the same thing: death-at-a-distance vs. hand-to-hand combat combat.>> I've had conversations with a bomber pilot from WWII and his feeling was they were bombing and if someone got killed they shouldn't have been there. I also have coffee with a grunt from WWII who was in the second wave at Iwo Jima. He complained that by the time he got there, the number of enemy to be killed was reduced. He caught up in Korea. OTOH I've talked with a guy who did INTEL in Japan during Vietnam and was upset 20 years later about Cong being killed from what he passed along. I think it's more personal than distance.

To: FaultLine who wrote (84995)	3/23/2003 1:43:49 AM
From: D. Long	Respond to of 281500

As technology separates individuals from the results of their actions, it cheats them of the chance to absorb and reckon with the enormity of what they have done. Yes but it seems like we could take a slice at any time in history and be able to say the same thing: death-at-a-distance vs. hand-to-hand combat combat. The gallant de Foix certainly wished to give a retreating band of arquebusiers a chance to "absord and reckon" up close after the Battle of Ravenna, but they weren't in a chivalrous mood and blew the good duc de Nemours and his merry fellow cavaliers straight into oblivion. I'm sure the duc didn't appreciate how technology "seperated" those individuals from his lance. ;) Ole Harry V gave the French a little "shock and awe" 15th century style with Welsh longbowmen a bit earlier still at Agincourt. Ahh progress! Derek