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To: Eashoa' M'sheekha who wrote (85082)3/22/2003 11:46:28 PM
From: Snowshoe  Respond to of 281500
 
Splits emerge over post-Saddam plan
atimes.com

By Jim Lobe

WASHINGTON - An almost audible sigh of relief could be heard from a nondescript downtown building in the United States capital on Thursday morning when Iraqi President Saddam Hussein appeared on television some hours after US warplanes and cruise missiles had bombarded a residence in Baghdad.

Media reports quoted US officials as saying the raid was directed at a "target of opportunity", possibly Saddam and his two sons, shortly after the expiration of the 48-hour ultimatum delivered by US President George W Bush on Monday for the three men to leave the country or face a full-scale invasion.

If the raid had succeeded in killing the three, US officials told reporters, their war plans might have changed. But, fortunately for the neo-conservative hawks at the American Enterprise Institute (AEI) three blocks from the White House, it appears that Saddam remains alive, and the invasion will now go forward.

"That we appear not to have gotten Saddam Hussein last night ... may be a blessing in disguise," came the e-mail message from the AEI's press center. "As in Operation Desert Storm [in 1991], the measure of victory in this war against Iraq will not be how big we start but where and when we stop," continued the message from resident fellow Tom Donnelly.

"'Going to Baghdad' means more than physically occupying the city. It is a metaphor for tearing out 'Saddamism', root and branch. There will be many moments - and a quick kill on Saddam would be one - where some might be tempted to say, as the first Bush administration did when the television pictures of the famous Highway of Death hit American airwaves in 1991, that enough has been done."

Perish the thought, say the AEI hawks who, led by another resident scholar and chairman of the Pentagon's Defense Policy Board (DPB), Richard Perle, are deeply worried that that their hopes for a thoroughgoing purge of officials from Saddam's Ba'ath Party as the first step to transforming the entire Arab Middle East, may yet be frustrated.

Eighteen months after the September 11, 2001, terrorist attacks, the coalition of forces that has beaten the war drums against Baghdad virtually since the dust settled in Lower Manhattan has agreed that the "war on terrorism" must include the ouster of Saddam.

The coalition, in the administration centered in the offices of Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld and Vice President Dick Cheney, has in essence consisted of three components: hard right-wing or nationalist Republicans such as the Pentagon chief and vice president; neo-conservatives like Perle and most of Rumsfeld's and Cheney's immediate subordinates, such as Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz; and the Christian right, whose concerns have been represented most forcefully within the White House itself, particularly among Bush's domestic advisors.

While all three groups have agreed on key tactics - such as marginalizing to the greatest extent possible the influence of Secretary of State Colin Powell and other "realist" veterans of the first Bush administration - and strategy, including ousting Saddam, they have never agreed on what happens once the leader is removed.

"The earliest and most salient rift [in the hawks' coalition] will be the hard-right nationalists, like Rumsfeld and Cheney, and the neo-conservatives," said Charles Kupchan, a foreign-policy analyst at the Council on Foreign Relations and a National Security Council strategist under former president Bill Clinton.

"For the hard right, this is really about getting Saddam Hussein and weapons of mass destruction. Once that's done, they're going to say, 'OK, we've done our job, now let's get the hell out and go home.'"

But the neo-conservatives will want to stay to ensure that the Ba'ath Party is as discredited as the Nazi Party was in Germany, and to use Iraq as a base from which to exert pressure on other presumably hostile regimes, particularly Syria, Iran and even Saudi Arabia.

The third wing of the coalition, the Christian right, is more likely to side with Rumsfeld and Cheney than with the neo-conservatives, in Kupchan's view, creating a split that "will complicate George Bush's life immensely".

In many ways, these rifts were already apparent in Afghanistan, as Rumsfeld and Cheney were dead-set against serious "nation-building" and the extension of peacekeeping forces beyond Kabul for fear it would interfere with US military operations against Osama bin Laden's al-Qaeda terrorist network.

The result, which the neo-conservatives warned against at the time, is that the authority of the US-installed central government is basically confined to the capital, while most of the countryside remains in the hands of warlords. Washington cannot afford to leave Iraq in a similar state of disorder, say the neo-conservatives.

While Cheney and Rumsfeld have both given lip service to the idea that Washington's occupation of Iraq will be the first step toward the democratization of the entire region, they have also been the most outspoken in affirming that Saddam's self-exile would be one sure way of avoiding war.

This has caused no end of anxiety among the neo-conservatives both within the administration and in the think-tanks - including the AEI - and media outlets such as the Rupert Murdoch-owned Weekly Standard (headquartered in the AEI building), Fox News, and the editorial pages of the Wall Street Journal.

The neo-conservatives say that Iraq must not only be "de-Ba'athized", but that Washington must also be accorded the opportunity to show the world, and especially other Muslim states, just how powerful and determined it is both in waging war and reforming their political systems.

For them, "Saddamism without Saddam" would be the worst possible outcome of the present crisis, and they have excoriated Powell's State Department and the Central Intelligence Agency, which have generally opposed going to war against Iraq, for encouraging coups d'etat or enlisting the participation of even former senior Ba'ath officials in any post-invasion administration.

The neo-conservatives have long favored a far-reaching purge that would bring to power the core of the exiled Iraqi National Congress (INC) led by Ahmed Chalabi, an old friend of Perle and Wolfowitz, who would cooperate with US efforts to knock over the other "dominoes" in the region that are perceived as hostile to Washington or Israel.

In their view, a "decapitation" strategy targeted on Saddam, his sons and a few other top Ba'ath officials without a full-scale invasion and occupation risks falling far short of their regional ambitions.

(Inter Press Service)



To: Eashoa' M'sheekha who wrote (85082)3/23/2003 12:10:58 AM
From: Nadine Carroll  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
other than the FACT that he is a ruthless dictator, among a myriad of ruthless dictators and other dictator/ fascist types masquerading as democrat governments.


Nah, you are not giving due credit to Saddam. The Mideast (not alone) is full of your normal run of tinpot dictators and kleptocrats. Nobody else managed to establish a full bore police state with a cult of personality quite the way Saddam did. Not for nothing was Stalin his hero and model.



To: Eashoa' M'sheekha who wrote (85082)3/23/2003 4:26:06 AM
From: stockman_scott  Respond to of 281500
 
In the thick of 'shock and awe'

By ROBERT FISK
BRITISH JOURNALIST
Saturday, March 22, 2003

BAGHDAD -- Saddam Hussein's main presidential palace, a great rampart of a building 20 stories high, simply exploded in front of me -- a caldron of fire, a 100-foot sheet of flame and a sound that had my ears singing for an hour after. The entire, massively buttressed edifice shuddered under the impact. Then four more cruise missiles came in.

It is the heaviest bombing Baghdad has suffered in more than 20 years of war. All across the city last night, massive explosions shook the ground.

To my right, the Ministry of Armaments Procurement -- looking much like the facade of the Pentagon -- coughed fire as five missiles crashed into the concrete.

In an operation officially intended to create "shock and awe," shock was hardly the word for it. The few Iraqis in the streets around me -- no friends of Saddam I would suspect -- cursed under their breath.

From high-rise buildings, shops and homes came the thunder of crashing glass as the shock waves swept across the Tigris River in both directions.

Minute after minute the missiles came in. Many Iraqis had watched -- as I had -- television film of those ominous B-52 bombers taking off from Britain only six hours earlier. Like me, they had noted the time, added three hours for Iraqi time in front of London and guessed that, at around 9 p.m., the terror would begin. The B-52s, almost certainly firing from outside Iraqi airspace, were dead on time.

Police cars drove through the streets, loudspeakers ordering pedestrians to take shelter or hide under cover of tall buildings.

Much good did it do. Crouching next to a block of shops on the opposite side of the river, I narrowly missed the shower of glass that came cascading down from the upper windows as the shock waves slammed into them.

Along the streets a few Iraqis could be seen staring from balconies, shards of broken glass around them. Each time one of the great golden bubbles of fire burst across the city, they ducked inside before the blast wave reached them. At one point, as I stood beneath the trees on the corniche, a wave of cruise missiles passed low overhead, the shriek of their passage almost as devastating as the explosions that were to follow.

How does one describe this outside the language of a military report, the definition of the color, the decibels of the explosions? When the cruise missiles came in, it sounded as if someone was ripping huge curtains of silk in the sky and the blast waves became a kind of frightening counterpoint to the flames.

There is something anarchic about all human beings, about their reaction to violence. The Iraqis around me stood and watched, as I did, at huge tongues of flame bursting from the upper stories of Saddam's palace, reaching high into the sky. Strangely, the electricity grid continued to operate and around us the traffic lights continued to move between red and green. Billboards moved in the breeze of the shock waves and floodlights continued to blaze on public buildings. Above us we could see the massive curtains of smoke beginning to move over Baghdad, white from the explosions, black from the burning targets.

How could one resist it? How could the Iraqis ever believe with their broken technology, their debilitating 12 years of sanctions, that they could defeat the computers of the missiles and aircraft? It was the same old story: irresistible, unquestionable power.

Well yes, one could say, could one attack a more appropriate regime? But that is not quite the point. For the message of last night's raid was the same as that of Thursday's raid, that of all the raids in the hours to come: that the United States must be obeyed. That the European Union, United Nations, NATO -- nothing -- must stand in its way. Indeed can stand in its way.

No doubt this morning the Iraqi minister of information will address us all again and insist that Iraq will prevail. We shall see. But many Iraqis are now asking an obvious question: How many days? Not because they want the Americans or the British in Baghdad, though they may profoundly wish it. But because they want this violence to end, which, when you think of it, is exactly why these raids took place.

Reports were coming in last night of civilians killed in the raids -- which, given the intensity of the cruise missile attacks -- is not surprising. Another target turned out to be the vast Rashid military barracks, perhaps the largest in Iraq.

But the symbolic center of this raid was intended to be Saddam's main palace, with its villas, fountains, porticos and gardens. And, sure enough, the flames licking across the facade of the palace last night looked very much like a funeral pyre.
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Robert Fisk is a writer for The Independent, a general-circulation newspaper published in Great Britain.

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