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Politics : Stop the War! -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Raymond Duray who wrote (1837)	3/23/2003 5:04:22 PM
From: Crimson Ghost	Respond to of 21614

Khamenei Accuses US And Britian Of "Satanic" Motives Mar 22, 2003 By Sayyed Mahdi Soroush Via Islamic Community Net Ayatollah Khamenei, has said that the USA and Britian are pursuing policies based on "satanic" motives and although they started the military operations in Iraq they will not necessarily be the ones to decide when the conflict comes to an end. Ayatollah Khamenei said the war was being fought to advance the interests of Israel. Iran would not defend Saddam Hussain, he added, saying that those fighting the Iraqi leader were responsible for arming him themselves. The following is an excerpt from the speech on March 21, 2003: In the Name of God, the Compassionate, the Merciful Unfortunately, a war that is wreaking havoc on people is taking place now. This is an unjust war. This is a war that is based on high-handedness and bullying. Unfortunately, America and the countries that are following it, including Britain, have their own satanic motives. So they have started to make a move. They have started this, but it is not clear that they will be able to put an end to it themselves or that they will have any control over this, unless, they withdraw from the fray and put an end to this humanitarian catastrophe. Of course, this is not the first time over the last 50 years that America has started a war or that it has inflicted massive suffering on a nation by hedding blood and waging war. This is not the first time that it is trying to occupy a country through the use of force. We have seen the government of the United States of America getting involved in similar events in East Asia, Africa and Latin America. Incidentally, in all of those cases, despite the fact that America may have gained short-term victories, in the long-run, various nations gave it a really painful smack in the mouth. Where is the government that America defended in Vietnam in those days, that is in South Vietnam? Where is Pinochet whom America put in power in Chile? What happened to illegal groups that came to power in Afghanistan or in other regions because America spent money on them or because American agents spent their oil money on them? Where are they? There were areas of Africa where America was present and where it maintained its presence by committing atrocities. However, it had to leave those areas after it was humiliated and disgraced and shamed. It was not successful during any of those developments and, this time round, the same thing is going to happen. Today, we can see that America and Britain have started this war. However, it is taking place despite the strong hostility of world public opinion. The opinion-formers of this world, as well as world public opinion, have condemned this war and those who are responsible for starting it. Those who claim that they value the votes of human beings are ignoring public opinion and they are doing what they wanted to do anyway. USA, UK Aim To "Control" Oil In Region Their aim is to occupy Iraq, dominate the Middle East region and gain total control of this precious treasure, namely oil, be it Iraqi oil or the oil of the rest of the region. They want to protect and safeguard the existence of the illegitimate Zionist government. That is their aim. Of course, first of all we are praying for the Iraqi people. We are not defending the Iraqi dictator or the Ba'thist regime of Iraq. We know them better than anyone else. We have felt their missiles and their chemical weapons with our own flesh and our young people have felt those things as well. However, they have not come here for those things. They are lying. They have equipped Saddam Hussain with those deadly weapons. Now, they want to interrogate him to find out what happened to each and everyone of those things. They are arguing that they are neutral and that they are making all sorts of claims. Therefore, we are defending the Iraqi people. The future of Iraq will only be defined by the Iraqi people and not by anyone else, be they the UN nor various governments and powers. Only the Iraqi people themselves can do that. It is an old and ancient nation. Its civilization has deep roots and they have prominent figures and human beings. It is this nation that must define its own destiny. Every human being has one vote in Iraq. The sum of those votes will define the future, as well as the kind of government, that Iraq will have. Therefore, we condemn this war and we declare our sympathy and support for the Iraqi people. We believe that this war must stop as quickly as possible. We believe that if they do not stop this war, then, the invaders, will, undoubtedly, make losses themselves. It will deal a blow to them. I would like to tell our own dear nation that that is what America is like. That is America unmasked for you. Whenever it thinks it is necessary and whenever it thinks that its national interests are at stake - however, illegitimately and illegally such national interests are defined - it will have no compunctions about attacking a nation or cities.

To: Raymond Duray who wrote (1837)	3/24/2003 1:28:02 AM
From: jttmab	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 21614

As Adolf Hitler famously quipped: "It is lucky for leaders that the people do not think." We like to believe, somehow, that we're different. I stumbled across a more subtle version of that thought while I was looking for some background information on Samuel Adams. What was he before he became a politician/Patriot? A university graduate that worked for his father at a successful brewery. Dad died, Samuel got the brewery which Samuel led into bankruptcy. After other career failures which included being a tax collector, he decided to go into politics [so what's different? <s>] In politics, he had a philosphy: Put your adversary in the wrong and keep him there. The only way that works is if people don't think. One of those nasty oppressive laws that the patriots listed out along with the Stamp Act was the Quebec Act. The Quebec Act granted the people of Quebec religious freedom. I guess they figured people wouldn't check and it made the list longer. Funny. jttmab