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To: Ilaine who wrote (85388)3/24/2003 3:09:36 AM
From: Bilow  Respond to of 281500
 
Hi CobatlBlue; Re: "I certainly never predicted that the coalition would be met with flowers, although that would be nice, of course."

Nah, the flowers in Baghdad theory was mostly, but not entirely, LindyBill:

jlallen, August 21, 2002
The conscripts threw up their hands and surrendered in droves last time around. Very likely they will heed a "stay in the barracks or die" warning this time around. #reply-17904810

LindyBill, September 13, 2002
Plan one: "Get the Bastard!" Plan two: Let them install a Government when they get though waving flowers and dancing for joy in the streets of Baghdad, #reply-17987529
January 25, 2003
Many will watch with anger if flowers are thrown by dancing crowds on our Tanks in Baghdad. It is not that they like Saddam. They just dislike Bush. That's Politics! #reply-18489468
February 4, 2003
If we end up cleaning the flowers off the tanks in Baghdad, while we let the Media film the WWD found, none of you will change your mind. #reply-18536217
February 7, 2003
If you are playing the market, and the invasion ends up with dancing crowds throwing flowers on our tanks in Baghdad, you can figure on a huge market jump. So take a tranquilizer and get some rest, Karen. Things will be great by the time we reach some March Mornings. #reply-18548765
February 25, 2003
We will be brushing the Flowers off our tanks in Baghdad by the end of March. Hope you stick around to enjoy it. #reply-18626929
March 4, 2003
They don't give a "rats," MC. They are off on a self destructive orgy of anti-war protests that will only end when the Flowers are bouncing off our tanks. Then they will go home, leave the protest signs leaning against the door, and get back on the Internet to plan for the next opportunity that arises. This is their whole life. They will die broke and bitter. #reply-18654078
March 5, 2003
Carl, this is why you have been so woefully wrong for the last year on this Administrations capabilities and intentions. You keep working with "False Premises." We are not facing a "hostile civilian population." This is the invention of fearful minds. Sure we will have hostile individuals, but it's "Dancing Iraqis in the street with flowers," the same way it was in [Afghanistan]. So you can "Force ratio" yourself forever, and it means nothing when you have the wrong assumptions. 18658060
Oh, I see. So when the dancing Iraqis meet us in the street with flowers, that is just a prelude to them starting Urban Warfare against us six months later. Boy, they are really sneaky, aren't they? #reply-18668246

Bilow, in reply
No, a population that welcomes foreign troops usually doesn't rebel, though they sometimes eventually do. I've noted before that the belief that the residents of Baghdad will come out with flowers for us is a delusion. Also note that I predicted within a few days of 9/11 that the Afghans would greet us with flowers. The difference is simple. We had a history of helping Afghanistan against the Russians, particularly under Reagan. Our history in Iraq is one of killing their soldiers (i.e. fathers, brothers and sons), destroying their infrastructure, and depriving the population of the benefits of free trade. Also, Afghanistan was a non Arab country being run by Arabs, a foreign invader, while Iraq is an Arab country being run by an Arab, so there was in Afghanistan a certain xenophobia already in place against the Taliban. #reply-18671309

-- Carl