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To: JSwanson who wrote (433)3/24/2003 10:21:42 AM
From: zonder  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 7832
 
if it is within your own boundaries, then it is internal

That's what I said:
a country's INTERNAL AFFAIRS. As in, freedom from external control WITHIN YOUR OWN BOUNDARIES.

You really seem to have trouble understanding what you read.

As for the rest of your post, you are going into perceived threats ("imagined", more likely) and right of "defense". We can argue, if you like, whether or not Iraq is a threat to America, or if it has threatened America in any way, shape, or form that might possibly justify an invasion. (Keep in mind that it was Al-Qaeda, not Iraq, who did 9/11, and that there is no convincing indication of a link between them)

However, what we were discussing here was the validity of the statement "We don't need no stinking votes. We are a sovereign nation. There is no mention in our constitution of being subject to the UN or any other outside agency.", which Michael M posted before you appeared.

My points were:
(1) Sovereignty has NOTHING to do with right to attack and invade other countries
(2) Yes, UN Charter is relevant when it is considering the invasion of another country. Because the US signed it.



To: JSwanson who wrote (433)3/24/2003 3:03:18 PM
From: epicure  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 7832
 
what if your perceptions are irrational?
In law we have the reasonable man standard
perhaps we need a "reasonable country" standard for international law