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Politics : Piffer Thread on Political Rantings and Ravings -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Bid Buster who wrote (10058)	3/24/2003 10:17:11 AM
From: Original Mad Dog	Respond to of 14610

Thanks for moving the discussion off of GI to here, where it belongs. My own view is that the UN Security Council and its predecessor, the League of Nations body which passed disarmament resolutions, did fail, and misery did follow those failures on many occasions. The failures were largely ones of inaction rather than action. There are also instances where the Security Council did accomplish some things, either by providing a forum to defuse tensions or, most notably in the case of the 1991 Gulf War, by choosing to engage militarily a party who had clearly done something which needed to be addressed. If I was not swamped with work today, I would love to go through case by case the UNSC's failures and successes, and the ratio between the two. I will leave that to the other students of history on the thread for now.

To: Bid Buster who wrote (10058)	3/24/2003 12:37:47 PM
From: Techplayer	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 14610

b_b, You know very well that Saddam was playing the UN, playing the inspection team and playing the media in regards to his disarmament. The fact that he was buying banned weapons during the inspection process just puts an exclamation point on it. As far as timing is concerned, when IS the right time? There have been numerous resolutions and 12 years for him to stop playing the game. additionally, he sponsors Palestinian martyrdom and is definitely a threat to supply the Palestinians with weapons of any kind. I don't want to open a big can of worms here. i will say that I do not support the Israeli or the Palestinian approach to their conflict. I feel that the US and whoever else it takes needs to hammer out a defined Palestinian state that can trade and exist as an entity. That alone might cool much of the hatred in the ME.... I am not a fan of war or loss of life. I personally happen to agree that the time for Saddam to go is here. If you feel that I am a bad person for that, so be it....