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To: abuelita who wrote (15381)	3/24/2003 11:18:13 AM
From: lurqer	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 89467

More at stake in northern Iraq It's not just northern Iraq. Modern Turkey isn't just inhabited by Turks. Minorities that have been suppressed by the Turkish boot are restless. The Cypriots, the Armenians et al wish to escape that bootheel along with the Kurds. Turkey, as part of their application to join the EU, is under pressure to "ease up". If they do will there be an explosion? Just an observer of the passing scene known as lurqer

To: abuelita who wrote (15381)	3/24/2003 11:25:08 AM
From: thames_sider	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 89467

And according to the BBC, the EU's putting pressure on Turkey to stay out. Blair's spoken out against it, too - I suppose this for him is a part of the moral stance (defending democracy and the Kurds), I wonder when or if he'll notice that this is not precisely the neocon's greatest interest? news.bbc.co.uk Turkey was warned by the European Commission on Monday that sending its troops into Iraq could "complicate" its EU membership chances. Other individual EU nations also warned against the plan to deploy soldiers in Kurdish northern Iraq, as the US too continued to exert pressure on an increasingly-isolated looking Ankara. ... "In relation to Turkey, it would be entirely unacceptable for there to be any incursion," Mr Blair said in the UK parliament. German Defence Minister Peter Struck added his own warning, threatening to withdraw German AWACS crews from Nato's current mission to protect Turkey. "There should be no reinforcement of the Turkish military presence above its current level," Mr Struck. If it can unite UK and Germany on this point, it'll be EU policy. IMO. So that's definitely a strong warning to Turkey.

To: abuelita who wrote (15381)	3/24/2003 11:33:50 AM
From: Jim Willie CB	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 89467

Patriot act is in the news now, real big implications for a nice (certainly not impartial) analysis fromthewilderness.com this morning came news that the US has seized over $1.3 billion in Iraqi funds stored around the world since 1991 we claim the money was illegally diverted from Iraq maybe it was, maybe it wasnt we plan to use the money for rebuilding Iraq, and humanitarian causes I hope that is the case, but I doubt it I believe Sodomy has billions stored somewhere US "experts" claim the sum is between $5 and $20 billion if so, then no different from Haile Selassi of Ethiopia, or Ferdy Marcos of Philippines, or Papa Duvalier of Haiti it is in US best interests financially to assist these dictators in removing wealth and placing it in the Western Bank and financial market system apparently, the Caribbean banks are cooperating but Swiss banks are not the USGovt is threatening to cut off any nation and its citizens from US financial markets if they do not fully coooperate with our seizure operations ON ITS FACE, THIS SEEMS BOTH DICTATORIAL AND HILARIOUS, SINCE USA NEEDS $3 BILLION PER DAY OF FOREIGN MONEY TO FUND OUR ECONOMY From The Wilderness points out the serious curtailment and abridging of civil liberties underway Patriot II is even more seriously removing rights World War III has serious implications, not only with war, and oil, and fracture of NATO, BUT WITH MONEY AND RIGHTS / jim