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To: Gary H who wrote (94218)	3/24/2003 1:03:51 PM
From: Sam	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 117104

Gary ,,you sound like an Arab This has very little to do with Isreal ,It has to do with stability in the whole middle east ,they have almost all the oil in the world ,and should be enjoying the riches ,why are they all so poor and spreading hate and terrorism ,nobody can build anything in the region because it will get torn down or blew up ,dont blame the US as this has been going on since the birth of Christ .O`little town of Bethlehem how peacefully thy lie, look at some areas like Tiawan and HongKong,no oil, the glass buildings going up are a sight to see ,no way in the middle east could anyone do that,could the Glass in downtown Toronto be the next target.Is that why we are kissing ass .cause we are afraid . sam

To: Gary H who wrote (94218)	3/24/2003 1:26:11 PM
From: J.B.C.	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 117104

>>...when it's about oil....<< Could those that rant this, please explain it? Iraqi oil was already to market. If we wanted more, lift more sanctions so Saddam could sell more, no need for a war to do that. The only thing that I can figure you guy's mean is that you expect the United States to actually take possession of all fields and collect the payments for the commodity that comes out of the ground. The logic fails me since US could do this in any of the unarmed middle eastern countries. Heck we already were sitting in Oman and could have taken over that country with no loss of life. Even Saudi Arabia would have been pretty easy to topple. My sense is this war is because of oil, but not for it.....Since a country like Iraq can use it's oil wealth to channel in weapons development, but that's the only link that I see, somewhat like I see Bin Laden as a problem only because he inherited vast amounts of wealth that was a result of oil, I don't see the US wanting to get him because of his oil ties but what he chose to use that wealth for. ????? Jim

To: Gary H who wrote (94218)	3/25/2003 9:13:21 AM
From: lorne	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 117104

OT. Gary. You said....." I do not make their actions as the bone of contention. Saddam has to go for sure, but don't try to call this a humanitarian war when it's about oil and Israel. A spade is a spade. "..... Yes, oil has something to do with it. " The largest of Iraq's oilfields slated for post-sanctions development is Majnoon, with reserves of 12-20 billion barrels of 28o-35o API oil, and located 30 miles north of Basra on the Iranian border. French company TotalFinaElf reportedly has signed a deal with Iraq on development rights for Majnoon. " eia.doe.gov

To: Gary H who wrote (94218)	3/25/2003 10:29:18 PM
From: Richnorth	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 117104

Despite all denials to the contrary, I believe this war is about and for OIL! and for the safety of Israel! I have written elsewhere on the "America Under Siege" thread and on the "Raptor's Den" thread that the Iraq war will kill several birds with one stone --- the emasculation of the Palestinians and of Al Qaeda, the elimination of the Saddam regime and assuring the safety of Israel, and perhaps later on the emasculation of the rising power of China. Furthermore, with the US eventually getting control of all oil in the Middle East, the economy of the world can be manipulated in terms of oil. I wonder how gold will be affected if this does indeed transpire. It is remarkable lots of folks swallow, hook-line-and-sinker, that the war is a humanitarian war. When the principal partners (US & Britain) in the coalition set about helping the Iraqis using Iraqi oil, I am sure big businesses in the US and UK will secure highly favorable mega contracts that will return megabbucks profits for them. Guess who are most of the guys in control of big businesses worldwide? Even Mr. Klein (Premier of Alberta) has just said he supports the US in the war against Iraq even though Chretien has reiterated he was against the war. Mr. Klein insisted he was entitled to his opinion. My opinion is that Mr. Klein and his homegrown big oil buddies who support him have their sights set on the Iraqi oil, too! and they do not wish to be left out when contracts are dished out.