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To: michael97123 who wrote (85698)	3/24/2003 2:55:25 PM
From: Jacob Snyder	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

re: Palestinian Bantustans: If you don't like that one, how about this one: The 230-mile wall and fence already under construction will extend the length of the West Bank, creeping deep inside Palestinian territory for long stretches. It will almost surround at least one, and probably two, cities. "This just confirms that the wall is not to separate the West Bank from Israelis, it's to separate Palestinians into their reservation," said Michael Tarazi of the PLO's negotiations support unit. "It means that the Israelis will take con trol of our border with Jordan and what remains of the best agricultural land we have. The wall near the green line has already taken a lot of our best land and now they are going to do the same with what remains in the Jordan valley. The new section planned by Mr Sharon would link the wall near Hebron with the barrier in the far north of the West Bank by running the full length of the Jordan valley. Jeff Halper, a respected documenter of Israeli expansion in the occupied territories, said it was hard to justify building a wall through the Jordan valley as a protection against terrorism. "If you're talking in terms of terrorism from the Palestinian side, there's not much to attack in the Jordan valley. It's not like the wall on the other side where you've got Israel," he said. "So it's hard not to conclude that they are using the wall to create a de facto border that basically reduces the West Bank to the 45% or 50% that Sharon is talking about giving the Palestinians, all truncated." guardian.co.uk

To: michael97123 who wrote (85698)	3/24/2003 4:47:51 PM
From: Nadine Carroll	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

Or is this independent research on your part that leads you to believe the creation of bantustans. mike Oh, the Palestinians have been crying "bantustans" ever since they realized what a PR disaster they had made for themselves by walking out of Camp David and Taba without a counter offer. It goes down big with the crowd that knows that Israel=South Africa, no hard evidence required. After Camp David they used some maps that the Israelis and the Americans all said came from an earlier stage in the negotiations but did not represent the final offers. I don't know what they are using now but it scarcely matters.