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To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (85822)3/24/2003 9:42:09 PM
From: Maurice Winn  Respond to of 281500
 
<When Russia wanted to invade Chechnya for a second time in 1999, it went so far as to invent pretexts - there are good reasons to believe Putin's security services planted bombs in Russian apartment complexes - to do so. >

That's right and the Jews destroyed the Twin Towers to justify invading the Arabs and stealing the oil.

<The US will not remain indefinitely in Iraq - Bush has said as much, and (again) everyone knows it - because Americans want a war of which they can be proud. If anything, the US may exit Iraq too soon for fear of being accused of colonialist ambitions. America's temptation is not imperialism, but isolationism >

Why would they leave Iraq? How long is indefinitely? An indefinite period.

USA depots remain in Germany, Japan, Korea, here, there and everywhere years, decades and now centuries and millennia after first moving in. [Admittedly the millennia one is a sneaky claim].

I can't imagine the USA withdrawing from Iraq while Kurdistan, Iran, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Palestine, Syria, Lebanon and other places are prone to mayhem which can do substantial damage to Americans.

Neither would an early withdrawl make the current invasion worthwhile. Getting rid of Saddam then pulling out is going to mean Saddam Mark II moves in for no improvement and perhaps a retrograde position.

Mqurice



To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (85822)3/24/2003 10:43:56 PM
From: Ilaine  Respond to of 281500
 
Very cool analysis, which provoked an insight of my own I think is good, or maybe it's the excellent Polish vodka.

I am guessing that this is the type of insight that only a middle aged female baby boomer would have.

We Americans are the global equivalent of the Sandwich Generation, the generation that has to take care of both the children and the aged wrinklies, aka parents, trying to juggle children that need to be protected and nurtured, and aging parents that need to be cared for.

We have to take care of the baby countries like Estonia and Latvia that need to be protected and nurtured until they are fully grown.

And we need to take care of the ancient countries like Iraq that bitch at us for interfering with their autonomy but need to be cajoled and sweet talked into wearing their Depends and taking their calcium supplements.

We members of the Sandwich Generation get no respect, but carry the world on our shoulders.

That's my own projection, and I am sticking to it.