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To: Sun Tzu who wrote (85906)	3/25/2003 1:42:38 AM
From: Steeny	Respond to of 281500

I don't really disagree with you. I think Rumsfeld convinced himself of what he wanted to hear, is my only point. He probably listened to a minority of the Kurds & ignored the overall sentiment. Either way, it is poor analysis.

To: Sun Tzu who wrote (85906)	3/25/2003 2:05:31 AM
From: Karen Lawrence	Respond to of 281500

They don't trust the US because they believe the US has ulterior motives. I wonder why.

To: Sun Tzu who wrote (85906)	3/25/2003 6:06:12 AM
From: Sig	Respond to of 281500

<<<You are of course entitled to your opinion. But I have seen interview after interview who spoke of the deep mistrust of US even among the factions who were getting support from US.>>> I like your reasoning about these matters The Iraquis are in a position somewhat equivalent to having a new Republican ward boss setting the rules in a primarily Democratic District. All is confusion, few can see what good will come of it , and there would be lots of bitching just because, well, just because. Our present government is far from perfect and will freely admit that. And the Iraqis must invent their own new government in which their present local leadership may be little changed. So it is hard to convince them of the better future they could face, and its up to them to build one with the vastly improved incomes they will achieve when oil income filters down to where it belongs-to them and not Saddam. What the US will give them, and about all that has been promised, is a regime change which will most likely be under US and UN supervision and a provide a freedom from the tortures and oppressions of Saddam. Both the US and the UN are outside forces which can appear to be a new oppression replacing the old one. Will the new Iraqis be happy about all this? It must be very confusing at this moment, since they have to replace an old government with a new one which exists only in speculation and which will have to be more ompatible with European traditions than of average Arab traditions.They may be happier with a benevolent dictator. Saddam's promises (I would not know) perhaps were "stay with me and we (the Iraqis) will someday rule the the Arab world and become a great ruling Nation- so shut up and do exactly as I say or we will cut out your tongues and rape your women" That hope is now dead, or soon will be. So I guess its no flowers on the tanks in Baghdad - perhaps there will be in other cities Sig