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To: FaultLine who wrote (85925)	3/25/2003 4:18:46 AM
From: LindyBill	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

There is no comparison between a claim of someone having a hatred of his country and someone being like a particular public person and the ideology that person's group stands for...... Ha! You still get away with 3x what almost everyone else does (recently down from 6x) and that's only because you build up goodwill through quality participation.... It is obvious that you and I are not on the same frequency about this. So be it.

To: FaultLine who wrote (85925)	3/25/2003 7:29:18 AM
From: Ilaine	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

Typically liberals accuse conservatives of McCarthyism when conservatives criticize their ideas, and conservatives accuse liberals of hating our country when liberals criticize their ideas. Both are, in my opinion, ways of saying "your ideas stink and you should shut up." I don't take charges of McCarthyism any more seriously than I take charges that someone hates our country (except for Chomsky). Both are silly and shallow accusations, in my opinion. On the one side you have people hissing "fascist, McCarthy" and on the other side people chanting, "America, love it or leave it." It's not debate, it's a caricature of debate. McCarthy had the power to put people in prison for their ideology. Nobody has that power in America any more, and there is no threat of prison for ideology (well, except for Al Qaeda members).