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To: stockman_scott who wrote (15498)	3/25/2003 11:14:53 AM
From: Threshold	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 89467

"A few miles from the bridge to the south lie the ruins of the ancient city of Ur, founded 8,000 years ago, the birth place of Abraham and a flourishing metropolis at a time when the inhabitants of north-west Europe were still walking round in animal skins. Sgt Sprague, from White Sulphur Springs in West Virginia, passed it on his way north, but he never knew it was there. "I've been all the way through this desert from Basra to here and I ain't seen one shopping mall or fast food restaurant," he said. "These people got nothing. Even in a little town like ours of twenty five hundred people you got a McDonald's at one end and a Hardee's at the other." The ignorance is deafening. Yep and out of those 2500 people over half of them are slowly dying from fast food poisoning, and carrying about 50% excess body fat. Most of the world is undernourished and most Americans are fat. What is wrong with this picture?

To: stockman_scott who wrote (15498)	3/25/2003 11:26:12 AM
From: Jim Willie CB	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 89467

nice account of what hand2hand combat in urban areas is like this war will be perhaps even more messy than VietNam those who disagree are in for a shock I cannot believe the incredible delusional stupidity of Americans who believe... - this will be a short quick successful war - we will be greeted gleefully by Iraqis on the streets - we will see Iraqis assist us, rising up to kill Saddam IS THIS COUNTRY REALLY THAT STUPID ??? I am sorry to say YES / jim

To: stockman_scott who wrote (15498)	3/25/2003 11:28:06 AM
From: abuelita	Respond to of 89467

U.S. to aim at North Korea, Iran after Iraq: David Frum More conflict inevitable, former Bush speechwriter tells UBC crowd David Reevely Vancouver Sun Tuesday, March 25, 2003 The Iranian government is likely to collapse under its own weight, but North Korea could well require a fight, former U.S. presidential speechwriter David Frum told a University of B.C. audience Monday evening. The Canadian-born neoconservative commentator and ex-writer for U.S. President George W. Bush has received most of the credit for defining Iraq, Iran, and North Korea as a terrorism-supporting "axis of evil." Once the war in Iraq is over (which is likely to take weeks but not months, Frum said), the U.S. is likely to turn its attention to the other two, he told about 75 people at the event organized by the university's Alma Mater Society. "If somebody's determined to fight with you, it's very hard to avoid it," Frum said of North Korea, whose government has recently reactivated a nuclear program and begun using bellicose rhetoric toward the United States. He cited North Korea's interception of an American spy plane over international waters a few weeks ago as evidence it's looking to pick a war. Iran, on the other hand, is very gradually democratizing and the Islamic government there is facing increasing pressure from within, Frum said. "North Korea is very much like Iraq, in the sense that Saddam Hussein would never give up power voluntarily, but Iran might not be in that situation," he said. He took on critics of the U.S.-led invasion by acknowledging that the war is over oil -- but only in the sense that oil money is what makes Saddam Hussein dangerous, because he uses it to fund terrorism. It's a war for Israel, Frum said -- but only because Israel is a nuclear power and if Saddam Hussein was to acquire nuclear weapons, the Middle East would suddenly become an even more dangerous place. Frum, who has recently published an inside look at the Bush White House called The Right Man, opened by saying he's not very good at telling jokes, but told several tales of White House life. The Secret Service once detained him in the bowels of the building because his ID card identified him as a foreign national, for instance. canada.com