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To: Neeka who wrote (86001)	3/25/2003 1:04:44 PM
From: JohnM	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

Once again, let's all calm down. We are in the early stages of some extremely emotional times. It makes sense, in the interests of preserving this thread as a place to talk to one another, to keep the hysteria off the thread. If you feel such an attack coming on, take a walk, get a beer, read the thread header. Do something; don't post.

To: Neeka who wrote (86001)	3/25/2003 1:17:20 PM
From: FaultLine	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

And I don't give a fig what you say.......you hate America. Come on mm, you have every right to personally feel this way but you know it is not appropriate to broadcast this sort of thing in public on this thread... OK? --ken/fl

To: Neeka who wrote (86001)	3/25/2003 3:11:19 PM
From: Jacob Snyder	Read Replies (4) \| Respond to of 281500

<Top of head BLOWN off......completely blown off....opened up like a melon dropped from 100 feet.> War is hell. All wars are like this, and everyone does these kind of things. Yes, everyone. Good people, ethical people, people exactly like me and you, end up doing things like this, and worse, in war. It's happened in every war the U.S. has been in, and done by both sides. Did you see the pictures of the prisoners in U.S. custody in Afghanistan, who were "beaten to death with blunt instruments"? No, you didn't, as no pictures were released. So we'll just have to use our imagination. Or not think about it, which seems to be the preferred response.

To: Neeka who wrote (86001)	3/25/2003 4:41:53 PM
From: Maurice Winn	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 281500

M, I don't think the USA would want to have too close a scrutiny of their handling of prisoners of war. The International Court of Justice sounds like a good idea. The USA is using it to threaten the Iraqi opposition, while not wanting to be subject to it themselves. A skeptic wonders why that would be if they are not embarrassed by their actions or intended actions. Lt William Calley, who was mutilating civilians, not military people, got what as a punishment? Napalm and non-smart B52 bombing of civilians in Hanoi fitted into what category? That friendly neighbourhood ally of the USA, General Dostum, is straight out of the Saddam mould. Handing POWs over to him was like Vichy France handing Jews to the Nazis for Dr Mengele's medical care. Perhaps some POWs given to Dostum swapped sides, but apparently quite a lot ended up very dead, in containers and stuff. The USA should enthusiastically support development of international law and civilization. That's the key to preventing terrorism. Draining the swamp is good in the meantime [as per in Afghanistan and now Iraq]. Trying to pretend that people in Guantanamo Bay or Afghanistan don't have human rights isn't a good look. The meeting with Hu Jintao, when King George II starts to lecture China about human rights, will have them rolling in the aisles. I think we won't be hearing about human rights in China any time soon. Whining about American POWs being shown in news media, which is apparently bad, while Iraqi POWs are shown up close and personal, is hypocritical. The mutilated dead people shown [which I haven't looked at] isn't showing POWs - that's a demonstration of Iraqi barbarism. I don't see why showing POWs is considered bad, but the rules of war are supposed to apply to both sides, not just Iraqis. Mqurice