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To: Clappy who wrote (15528)	3/25/2003 2:59:27 PM
From: Jim Willie CB	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 89467

I think you are a member of an Iraqi cell in USA / jw

To: Clappy who wrote (15528)	3/25/2003 3:20:48 PM
From: abuelita	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 89467

clappy- i just heard that the city of basra is becoming a BIG problem. clearly, resistance was not expected and the plan was to bring in humanitarian aid immediately - this is obviously not happening and no food/water/electricity since friday is quickly developing into a humanitarian disaster. resistance is strong. iraqis defending their cities in their cities. this war is a powder keg yet to explode, i'm afraid. under the coalition. to borrow a phrase from lurqer, JMO rose

To: Clappy who wrote (15528)	3/25/2003 7:33:09 PM
From: stockman_scott	Respond to of 89467

Former General McCaffrey: Allies Risk 3000 Casualties in Baghdad Washington Post washingtonpost.com Posted 3/25/2003 8:49:31 AM LONDON (Reuters) - The U.S.-led force in Iraq risks as many as 3,000 casualties in the battle for Baghdad and Washington has underestimated the number of troops needed, a top former commander from the 1991 Gulf War said on Monday. Retired U.S. Army General Barry McCaffrey, commander of the 24th Infantry Division 12 years ago, said the U.S.-led force faced "a very dicey two to three day battle" as it pushes north toward the Iraqi capital. "We ought to be able to do it (take Baghdad)," he told the Newsnight Program on Britain's BBC Television late on Monday. "In the process if they (the Iraqis) actually fight, and that's one of the assumptions, clearly it's going to be brutal, dangerous work and we could take, bluntly, a couple to 3,000 casualties," said McCaffrey who became one of the most senior ranking members of the U.S. military following the 1991 war. "So if they (the Americans and British) are unwilling to face up to that, we may have a difficult time of it taking down Baghdad and Tikrit up to the north west." McCaffrey said Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld had misjudged the nature of the conflict. Asked if Rumsfeld made a mistake by not sending more troops to start the offensive, McCaffrey replied: "Yes, sure. I think everybody told him that." "I think he thought these were U.S. generals with their feet planted in World War II that didn't understand the new way of warfare," he added. U.S. forces have advanced more than 200 miles into Iraqi territory since the start of the war and are beginning to confront an elite division of the Republican Guards deployed to defend the capital. "So it ought to be a very dicey two to three day battle out there." McCaffrey said of the confrontation with the Republican Guards. He said his personal view was that the invading troops would "take them (the Iraqis) apart." "But we've never done something like this with this modest a force at such a distance from its bases," he warned. McCaffrey, a former Commander in Chief of the U.S. Armed Forces in Latin America, served overseas for 13 years and took part in four combat tours. He twice received the Distinguished Service Cross, the second highest medal for valor in the United States.