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To: Jamey who wrote (34593)	3/25/2003 2:46:48 PM
From: 2MAR$	Respond to of 39621

And I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; neither shall anyone snatch them out of My hand. 29 My Father, who has given them to Me, is greater than all; and no one is able to snatch them out of My Father's hand. 30 I and My Father are one." And what does this mean in real terms ? Do you ever stop to think about it at all ever ? Or is it just a collection of high-sounding words, you wave like a banner ? John's words were not just for you , nor was this idea first ever echo'ed in his mind or the mind of Jesus . They were spoken in just as meaningful and wise ways long before , and still are alive in eternal fellowship with Christianity , at least for the Christians that don't hide their heads in the sand and follow a path of tolerance. That course in comparative religion you need desperately, you will appreciate America all the more when you study. These were written long before John or Jesus were born, 1500yrs or so before Mohammed ... I'll post a few hundred(s) more for you in days to come . "Love and compassion are necessities, not luxuries. Without them, humanity cannot ever really live at all or ever survive ... "To live a pure unselfish life, one must count nothing as one's own in the midst of abundance. "True stature is not created by form or ornament; words spoken out of jealousy and greed oppose it. Only when evil has been stopped at its roots, and when there is wisdom without anger, is there true stature." Thousands of candles can be lighted from a single candle, and the life of the candle will not be shortened. Happiness never decreases by being shared. ~Buddha

To: Jamey who wrote (34593)	3/25/2003 3:02:21 PM
From: 2MAR$	Respond to of 39621

"By the accident of fortune a man may rule the world for a time, but by virtue of love and kindness he may rule the world forever." ~Lao-Tse , 500bc kind of fits exactly in with the spirit essence of what you just posted to me ? Sounds familiar ? And I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; neither shall anyone snatch them out of My hand. are you that blind to not see it ? I would really hesitate to follow ones who couldn't see the world as it is , only as they wish to make it . It is very difficult to undo the kind of religious prejudice and teachings that you and elect are victims of ..and this zealoutry . You have memorized the passages , but have lost the spirit essentially to see what is , and always has been universal. Taking some courses at your local JC will help...it is usually free in America. It is a great country and more than a "little" knowledge ...is a good thing ! try it you'll like it ...and you are --->never too old ! ;-)

To: Jamey who wrote (34593)	3/25/2003 3:23:05 PM
From: 2MAR$	Respond to of 39621

OT ....just found you a good website home.earthlink.net wonderful big wide world , isn't it ? enjoy PS: I like the one near the bottom , though many are good : " Ok, time to get off the cross , we need the wood !" ;-)

To: Jamey who wrote (34593)	3/25/2003 11:46:47 PM
From: 2MAR$	Respond to of 39621

Buddha: One who acts on truth is happy, in this world and beyond. Jesus: You will know the truth and the truth will make you free.

To: Jamey who wrote (34593)	3/25/2003 11:48:16 PM
From: 2MAR$	Respond to of 39621

Buddha: Consider others as yourself. Jesus: Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.

To: Jamey who wrote (34593)	3/25/2003 11:49:09 PM
From: 2MAR$	Respond to of 39621

Buddha: If you do not tend to one another then who is there to tend to you? Whoever who would tend me, he should tend the sick. Jesus: Truly I tell you, just as you did it to one of the least of these, so you have done it unto me.

To: Jamey who wrote (34593)	3/25/2003 11:50:30 PM
From: 2MAR$	Respond to of 39621

Buddha: Hatred do not ever cease in this world by hating, but by love; this is an eternal truth... Overcome anger by love, Overcome evil by good. overcome the miser by giving, overcome the liar by truth. Jesus: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who abuse you. From anyone who takes away your coat do not withhold even your shirt. Give to everyone who begs from you; and if anyone takes away your goods, do not ask for them again.

To: Jamey who wrote (34593)	3/25/2003 11:53:19 PM
From: 2MAR$	Respond to of 39621

Buddha: One is the way to gain, the other is the way to Nirvana, knowing this fact, students of the Buddha should not take pleasure in being honored, but, should practice detachment. Jesus: No slave can serve two masters For a slave will either hate one and love the other, or be devoted to one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and wealth.

To: Jamey who wrote (34593)	3/25/2003 11:54:51 PM
From: 2MAR$	Respond to of 39621

Buddha: Just as a mother would protect her only child at the risk of her own life, even so, cultivate a boundless heart towards all beings. Let your thoughts of boundless love pervade the whole world. Jesus: This is my commandment, that you love one another as I have loved you. No one has greater love than this, to lay down one's life for one's friends.

To: Jamey who wrote (34593)	3/25/2003 11:55:45 PM
From: 2MAR$	Respond to of 39621

Buddha: With the relinquishing of all thought and egotism, the enlightened one is liberated through not clinging. Jesus: Those who want to save their life will loose it. Those who loose their live for my sake will save it.

To: Jamey who wrote (34593)	3/25/2003 11:56:52 PM
From: 2MAR$	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 39621

Buddha: Hatred do not ever cease in this world by hating, but by love; this is an eternal truth... Overcome anger by love, Overcome evil by good. overcome the miser by giving, overcome the liar by truth. Jesus: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who abuse you. From anyone who takes away your coat do not withhold even your shirt. Give to everyone who begs from you; and if anyone takes away your goods, do not ask for them again. was worth repeating ....just coinincidental all these parallel sayings yes? And the one lived 500yrs or more before the other... heartlandsangha.org