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To: Original Mad Dog who wrote (10189)3/25/2003 4:51:04 PM
From: Jorj X Mckie  Respond to of 14610
 
very insightful and profound piece



To: Original Mad Dog who wrote (10189)3/25/2003 7:39:14 PM
From: X Y Zebra  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 14610
 
As our Cervantes had Don Quixote say, liberty is

"one of the most precious gifts heaven has bestowed upon Man. No treasures the earth contains or the sea conceals can be compared to it. For liberty one can rightfully risk one's life."


Hmmm... an good piece by Ms Palacio, yet I would be careful in quoting Don Quixote. An admirable idealist ? or a plain lunatic ? perhaps it is hard to find the defining line.

Quite... Cervantes also had our hero Don Quixote chase windmills as supposed lawless giants... a mere coincidence ? -gg

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“Fortune is guiding our affairs better than we could have wished; for you see there before you, friend Sancho Panza, some thirty or more lawless giants with whom I mean to do battle. I shall deprive them of their lives, and with the spoils from this encounter we shall begin to enrich ourselves for this is a righteous warfare, and it is a great service to God to remove so accursed a breed from the face of the earth.”



“What giants?” said Sancho Panza.



“Those that you see there,” replied his master, “those with the long arms some of which are as much as two leagues in length.”



“But look, your Grace, those are not giants but windmills, and what appear to be arms are their wings which, when whirled in the breeze, cause the millstone to go.”



“It is plain to be seen,” said Don Quixote, “that you have had little experience in this matter of adventures. If you are afraid, go off to one side and say your prayers while I am engaging them in fierce, unequal combat.”



Saying this, he gave spurs to his steed Rocinante, without paying any heed to Sancho’s warning that these were truly windmills and not giants that he was riding forth to attack. Nor even when he was close upon them did he perceive what they really were, but shouted at the top of his lungs, “Do not seek to flee, cowards and vile creatures that you are, for it is but a single knight with whom you have to deal!”



At that moment a little wind came up and the big wings began turning.



“Though you flourish as many arms as this the giant Briareus,” said Don Quixote when he perceived this, “you still shall have to answer to me.”



He thereupon commended himself with all his heart to his lady Dulcinea, beseeching her to succor him in this peril; and, being well covered with his shield and with his lance at rest, he bore down upon them at a full gallop and fell upon the first mill that stood in his way, giving a thrust at the windmill, which was whirling at such a speed that his lance was broken into bits and both horse and horseman went rolling over the plain, very much battered indeed. Sancho upon his donkey came hurrying to his master’s assistance as fast as he could, but when he reached the spot, the knight was unable to move, so great was the shock with which he and Rocinante had hit the ground.



“God help us!” exclaimed Sancho, “did I not tell your Grace to look well, that those were nothing but windmills, a fact which no one could fail to see unless he had other mills of the same sort in his head?”



“Be quiet, friend Sancho,” said Don Quixote. “Such are the fortunes of war, which more than any other are subject to constant change. What is more, when I come to think of it, I am sure that this must be the work of that magician Frestón, the one who robbed me of my study and my books, and who has thus changed the giants into windmills in order to deprive me of the glory of overcoming them, so great is the enmity that he bears me; but in the end his evil arts shall not prevail against this trusty sword of mine.”

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I wonder if Ms. Palacio might have her own "windmills of her mind" -gg

...or perhaps her roots came from Northern Spain, the one that was relatively free from the influence of the Moors...

orthohelp.com

[these days, as well as before, one never knows what are the true motivations of someone's actions when power is at stake, or religion for that matter... the more things change, the more they remain the same]



To: Original Mad Dog who wrote (10189)3/26/2003 9:08:55 AM
From: MulhollandDrive  Respond to of 14610
 
"Unmighty Europe"

this article is a little over a year old, but i think it puts the lie to the idea that increased taxation translates into military strength.

it also provides a bit of context to the french, german, belgium position wrt to war against iraq...

(note wolfowitz' prescience wrt nato)

and this is priceless:

Europe has been pledging to modernize its military for more than a decade, but it never seems to happen

gee i wonder why. all i can say is i am glad they are not in iraq...one can only imagine the increase in "friendly fire" incidents that would be happening if we were hamstrung by their antiquated forces.

classes.igpa.uiuc.edu

As of 12:17 a.m. EST Tuesday, February 5, 2002










Unmighty Europe

From New York to Munich this week, Europeans griped about American "unilateralism" in the war on terror. We heard it constantly ourselves at the World Economic Forum. In reply, we'd ask U.S. allies to ponder this fact: The $48 billion increase in annual military spending that President Bush proposed yesterday is twice the entire German defense budget.

The cries of "unilateralist" were especially pained at this weekend's Wehrkunde conference, the annual confab of global defense ministers in Munich. Many European participants took exception to Deputy U.S. Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz's comments that in the wars of the future "there will not be a single coalition but rather different coalitions for different missions." What about NATO, many wondered? Does it still matter?

The answer, alas, is that NATO matters less and less, as the war in Afghanistan has shown. With the exception of the Brits and the Turks, Europeans have been less relevant to waging that war than the Uzbeks and the Kazaks and the Pakistanis. But a main reason is that Europeans themselves don't want to spend what it takes to be relevant. Instead they delegate their security to U.S. aircraft and resources, as they did in Bosnia, all the while griping that the Yanks aren't consulting them enough. Sorry, friends, you can't have it both ways.

PARTNER OR PYGMY?

2001 defense spending as a % of GDP

Belgium 1.3%
Canada 1.1%
Denmark 1.5%
France 2.6%
Germany 1.5%
Italy 1.9%
Netherlands 1.6%
Spain 1.2%
United Kingdom 2.4%
United States* 3.5%

*2003 (proposed)

Source: NATO



We don't mean to single out the Germans. They're actually big spenders compared with other Europeans. As the nearby table shows, just about every European country spends less than 2% of GDP on defense. Britain and France both spend more. But compare that with the U.S., where Mr. Bush's proposal for Fiscal Year 2003 would devote 3.5% of its GDP to defense. In simple dollar terms, the U.S. spent twice as much on defense last year as every other NATO member combined.

With the exception of the British, Europe's military forces are antique, often unable to communicate with their American counterparts, much less fight with them. They lack such essentials of modern warfare as smart bombs and stealth aircraft. And don't even think about the Predator drones and Global Hawk aircraft that were so successful in seeing targets from the skies of Afghanistan.

Europe has been pledging to modernize its military for more than a decade, but it never seems to happen. The 1999 NATO Defense Capabilities Initiative went nowhere. The European "rapid reaction" force, which was supposed to be operational next year, remains a pipe dream. A military cargo plane planned by eight European nations is having a hard time getting off the drawing board. In short, the capabilities gulf is growing wider.

No less an authority than NATO Secretary-General Lord Robertson has been making the rounds of capitals warning about Europe's dangerously low spending on defense. "Mighty Europe," he warned in a speech in London last month, "remains a military pygmy." "Unless the Europeans do better militarily in NATO and the EU, their influence in the Euro-Atlantic area and more widely will remain limited."

Mr. Bush's proposed increase is easier politically because he has a domestic consensus to fight the war on terrorism. But that also stems in part from the U.S. President's willingness to lead. His budget (see editorial) proposes a tradeoff between domestic and defense spending that European elites refuse to even bring up with their electorates, much less propose. Until they do, they lack the standing to fret about "unilateral" America.

Updated February 5, 2002 12:01 a.m. EST