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To: Berry Picker who wrote (34603)3/25/2003 10:59:14 PM
From: 2MAR$  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 39621
 
Paul's word that was used for the risen body-of-christ , was the greek "'soma"...the use of soma in other literature of the period and shows that it refers to the physical "thingness" of a body. It is often used in a sense that we would say, "We need a body over here" with reference to slaves who are used as tools; to soldiers who are on the verge of death, to passengers on a boat, and to people in a census. In other places it is used to refer to a corpse (and so cannot refer by itself to the "whole person" as some influenced by Bultmann have suggested). Xenophon (Anabasis 1.9.12) refers to the people entrusting Cyrus with their possessions, their cites, and their "bodies" (somata). Plato refers to the act of habeus corpus in terms of producing a soma. Aristophanes refers to the throwing of a soma to dogs. It is used by Euripides and Demosthenes to refer to corpses.

It also refers to the earlier word used in the forefathers to the greeks , the aryans that used the word to describe in their ancient Vedas , the God/Godess of a hallucinatory beverage used as an offering to the Gods and consumed by participants in their sacrifices to beauty and ecstasy, bestowing "At-Oneness" with the primordial and eternal being. The Vedas are the eldest of human scriptures on earth, and there are innumerable passages refering to this .

Today , you don't need such a beverage , doing so very well hallucinating on your own... sans any joy , or love ,
or ecstasy...only thriving on argument and apologetics for these myths <G>

...but i dare say that the "drinking of the blood" idea goes all the way back to that original radiant religion of light and glorius mystery. Paul would have had no problem preaching a disembodied spirit to the Gentiles; but doing that, then switching it to "physical" as in the Gospels, would have been highly counterproductive to
his zealot's "missions "...but one can certainly see there was much appeal to do good woven into the fabric of this Soma-Gospel . No harm really done , but he certainly wanted to create a rather large "hook" to get people to notice him.
There is none greater than the promise of eternal life , though not hardly original.

(Paul was quite the flim flam man ...I wonder if he drank too much wine to ? Almost certainly he did , and Rome was ever ripe for any new mystery cult that came out of her provinces , though there is always the beckoning of the age of reason that redeems Christianity in the end ..were still waiting for you Elect )

;-)