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To: David in Ontario who wrote (22368)	3/25/2003 10:58:26 PM
From: David in Ontario	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 27702

Insults fly at Arab summit smh.com.au March 26 2003 With images of bloodied Iraqi civilians and a defiant Saddam Hussein blanketing television screens across the Middle East, Arab nations have called for the immediate withdrawal of the United States from Iraq. However, the Arab League foreign ministers, meeting on Monday, agreed on little else to placate the growing numbers of protesters on their streets. The Arab League meeting is the first since the war began and it put all the tensions and fears of the region on display, featuring short-tempered exchanges and barely disguised rudeness. As ministers met in an ornate hall on one side of Tahrir Square, an accountant named Abdel Salam Abdel Moneim watched the war on television in a nearby cafe. "To Saddam, if 10 Iraqis die and one American dies, it's a victory," he said. The Arab League foreign ministers said no Arab state should "participate" in military operations against Iraq, a formula that stopped short of condemning the countries that are allowing US troops to operate from their territory. More radical states, principally Syria, demanded the expulsion of all foreign troops from the region. Jordan, which has been importing Iraqi oil at bargain prices for years, shattered relations on Sunday by expelling three Iraqi diplomats for what it called internal security reasons. Syria's decision prompted Iraq's foreign minister to scornfully accuse Jordan of meekly following US orders. Qatar's delegate, Hamad bin Jassim Jabr al-Thani, walked out of the meeting an hour after it got under way behind closed doors. Qatar is the site of the coalition's Central Command for the attack on Iraq.

To: David in Ontario who wrote (22368)	3/26/2003 6:47:06 AM
From: zonder	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 27702

What I think I'm doing is illustrating quotes from the Koran I realize that. I am not arguing the existence of these quotes in the Quran. My point was, and still is, that Islam is not singularly egregious in it that its holy book has bloody passages that we consider inhuman at this stage of human development. I gave you examples of incest, a father offering virgin daughters for gangrape, and God killing thirty children because they made fun of some bald guy, all from the Testaments. The fact is that these books were all written a LONG time ago, for a very different audience, in whose life violence was an everyday phenomenon. They all contain stories that make us wince. Picking on one religion on this basis, while ignoring the ample similar references in other religions, is a very biased and inflammatory approach. Whatever the goal is, it is counterproductive, unless your goal is indeed to incite more hatred on both sides than already exists. The prose in your post required one glass of red wine to enable me to make it through. Thank you. You are welcome. A glass of red wine a day is good for you.